Council Tax - whats yours and do you think it a good system?

Really2

beecher2 wrote: »

It shouldn't be for services used - it should be for services provided by the council, regardless of use.

Is that not a licence to waste money?????

mitchaa

beecher2 wrote: »

It shouldn't be for services used - it should be for services provided by the council, regardless of use. We should pay according to what we earn, not what services we happen to use.

I don't agree with that.

2 identical houses, 1 house has a household income of £100k and the other a household income of £50k, why should those with the higher income pay more for the exact same services?

They already pay more through taxation, so why the need in council tax? That train of thought should go for everything then surely? Higher road tax? Higher petrol prices? Higher TV license fees etc etc

There may only be 2 in the £100k household and 6 in the £50k household, it is not logical.

beecher2

Really2 wrote: »

Is that not a licence to waste money?????

No more than it is at the moment. Council tax gives very little in the way of local accountability. We all pay for services regardless of whether we use them - most money goes on education and social care, neither of which I will ever use in the area I presently live in.

Really2

mitchaa wrote: »

I don't agree with that.

2 identical houses, 1 house has a household income of £100k and the other a household income of £50k, why should those with the higher income pay more for the exact same service?

They already pay more through taxation, so why the need in council tax? That train of thought should go for everything then surely? Higher road tax? Higher petrol prices? Higher TV license fees etc etc

There may only be 2 in the £100k household and 6 in the £50k household, it is not logical.

I 100% agree with that it should be a per capita charge based on household.

I have a child and my rubbish increased from hat point and we use more services (play parks etc) . Why should I not pay more?

beecher2

mitchaa wrote: »

I don't agree with that.

2 identical houses, 1 house has a household income of £100k and the other a household income of £50k, why should those with the higher income pay more for the exact same service?

They already pay more through taxation, so why the need in council tax? That train of thought should go for everything then surely? Higher road tax? Higher petrol prices? Higher TV license fees etc etc

There may only be 2 in the £100k household and 6 in the £50k household, it is not logical.

I don't understand why people think local services should be paid for differently from those services funded by central government. Council tax payments only pay for a tiny part of the service - most is centrally funded anyway. Paying for services such as school and social care can't be compared to petrol prices in my opinion.

molley

beecher2 wrote: »

No our sewerage and water rates are added onto our council tax and we pay them to our local council as Scottish Water is not privatised.

As for the poll tax, what's fair about someone who lives in a mansion paying the same as someone who lives in a 1 bed flat? Not that council tax is fair - we should have local income tax.

Well you can thank the Opposition parties at Holyrood for that as they voted it down . It would have taken loads of folk out of CT altogether .

jackieb

mitchaa wrote: »

Aberdeenshire Band F....£2,216.60pa

http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/counciltax/charges.asp

Includes Water & Sewerage though which I guess for you folks down south your council tax does not?

We have had ours frozen for the last few years :j

Aberdeenshire Band D....£1,534.57

Same as above. My sister doesn't have to pay sewerage though because she has a septic tank.

It was a pleasant surprise that it was frozen for another year.

ukcarper

mitchaa wrote: »

I don't agree with that.

2 identical houses, 1 house has a household income of £100k and the other a household income of £50k, why should those with the higher income pay more for the exact same services?

They already pay more through taxation, so why the need in council tax? That train of thought should go for everything then surely? Higher road tax? Higher petrol prices? Higher TV license fees etc etc

There may only be 2 in the £100k household and 6 in the £50k household, it is not logical.

So if you take that to its logical conclusion poll tax was right.

beecher2

Forgot to say, mine's about £1070 Band C after single person discount. If I didn't have that discount it'd be 1,078.22 plus water £163.12 plus sewerage £186.72, giving a total £1,428.06

Really2

ukcarper wrote: »

So if you take that to its logical conclusion poll tax was right.

I think part of the idea was right, I think it should be in some way proportional to use of service. Per capita seems logical, but I am not fully converse what poll tax entailed.