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To be honest, dmg24, the consumer complaint could equally apply to a previous partner or the current partner stopping over occasionally rather than benefit fraud.
Remember the forum etiquette - "Pls be nice to all MoneySavers. There's no such thing as a stupid question, and even if you disagree courtesy helps."
So very nicely I am happy to remind the OP that he shouldn't be much 'worse off' by buying groceries for his loved one and there is a huge capacity to make savings when she is fully independent. She doesn't 'lose' benefits, you both gain through a committed partnership.
For example, single mothers who live apart from the father's with whom they are still in a relationship with may get greater Benefits that way but lose out in other non-material ones.
Where have I not been nice? Please feel free to point out where I was rude or discourteous, because I cannot see it!
The post I quoted was from February 2010. The OP says that he has been with the partner in question since November 2009, so not difficult to do the maths. If you bothered to read the post fully, it is quite clear that the partner was not staying over occasionally.Gone ... or have I?0 -
She is her own person who wants to take responisbilty for herself, so why should she lose her benifits if she moves in with me?
But she is not taking responsibility for herself! She is asking the state to intervene and help her!Where have I not been nice? Please feel free to point out where I was rude or discourteous, because I cannot see it!
The post I quoted was from February 2010. The OP says that he has been with the partner in question since November 2009, so not difficult to do the maths. If you bothered to read the post fully, it is quite clear that the partner was not staying over occasionally.
Well spotted dmg.
Again we get potential fraud on MSE!
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Where have I not been nice? Please feel free to point out where I was rude or discourteous, because I cannot see it!
The post I quoted was from February 2010. The OP says that he has been with the partner in question since November 2009, so not difficult to do the maths. If you bothered to read the post fully, it is quite clear that the partner was not staying over occasionally.
From the mention of benefit fraud and suggestion that they are already co-habiting, based on a rather flimsy grounds. A browse of the post that got you highly excited doesn't provide any great insight into timescales/duration or frequency of the OPs partner's visit. There's no law that says those who live apart but claim benefits should only do so if they have single beds...
I say goodluck to their commitment to live together and the OPs OH job search, now that he understands the joy of living together will outweigh the loss of his partner's JSA.0 -
From the mention of benefit fraud and suggestion that they are already co-habiting, based on a rather flimsy grounds. A browse of the post that got you highly excited doesn't provide any great insight into timescales/duration or frequency of the OPs partner's visit. There's no law that says those who live apart but claim benefits should only do so if they have single beds...
I say goodluck to their commitment to live together and the OPs OH job search, now that he understands the joy of living together will outweigh the loss of his partner's JSA.
So I wasn't rude or discourteous at all? No, didn't think so.
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To be specific (and even ultra pedantic), I never said you were rude and discourteous, those are your words. I reminded you that forum etiquette encourages forum users to be nice (the forums own words).
I cannot see how suggesting that the OP wasn't being truthful about his status and the inference that he was committing benefit fraud because you have identified his partner as being present in the property on a number of occasions is actually very nice...
I remain one of your devoted fans but I do not think on this occasion you have not adhered to the spirit and letter of forum etiquette.
I know I have lapses in this area though I try to disguise my criticisms in a cunningly disguised implicit way which means that hopefully though I breach the spirit of the forum (which insists there's no such thing as a silly question though we typically see some complete howlers), I am within the letter...
I would have liked to have ended this diplomatic dispute with a smiley to show no hard feelings but, truth be told, I've never used them so haven't got the hang of it. Imagine there's one here>0 -
There's no law that says those who live apart but claim benefits should only do so if they have single beds...
Actually, the JobCentre state that you can lose your benefits for staying with your partner for more than 2 nights a week, as you are classed as a couple and should either claim JSA as a couple or your partner should support you.0 -
Actually, the JobCentre state that you can lose your benefits for staying with your partner for more than 2 nights a week, as you are classed as a couple and should either claim JSA as a couple or your partner should support you.
There are no set number of nights that someone can stay.0 -
Actually, the JobCentre state that you can lose your benefits for staying with your partner for more than 2 nights a week, as you are classed as a couple and should either claim JSA as a couple or your partner should support you.There are no set number of nights that someone can stay.
Lets not start that conversation again please!!! Its been done to death on here and still no one has an answer.
And as for Jowo and DMG, I'm gonna bang your heads together in a minute!! lol
OP, where does your gf live at the moment? and how does she cover costs just on JSA or is she claiming any other benefits?Be who you are, say what you feel, those who mind don't matter, those who matter don't mind.They say that talking to yourself is a sign of mental illness. So I talk to the cats instead.0 -
missmontana wrote: »Lets not start that conversation again please!!! Its been done to death on here and still no one has an answer.
No, you are incorrect.
Quite a lot of the knowledgeable regular posters know the answer.
The answer is :
There is no set number of nights.
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missmontana wrote: »Lets not start that conversation again please!!! Its been done to death on here and still no one has an answer.
And as for Jowo and DMG, I'm gonna bang your heads together in a minute!! lol
OP, where does your gf live at the moment? and how does she cover costs just on JSA or is she claiming any other benefits?
I am not starting the conversation again just giving the correct answer.
The answer is as I said - there are no set number of nights.0
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