Top GPs earning over £300,000 - The Times

Cleaver

Graham_Devon wrote: »

This thread is literllay full of people with absolutely no clue.

And for once GD, you're not one of them.

Graham_Devon

Cleaver wrote: »

And for once GD, you're not one of them.

I'd hope not. Literally all my income from my business revolves around being a consultant on behalf of GPs!

That don't sound right. Was trying to get away from saying GP Consultant!

Basically advise them on efficiency etc. So kinda need to know what's going on to do that!

DaddyBear

Can't beat a bit of sensationalist journalism.

GP's paid by the NHS for working as GP's get about 50-80k. A reasonable salary for the job they do.
The "300k GPs" are paid the same wage, however, they earn the extra by being partners in their GP practices. Individual practices are paid by the NHS for providing services and hitting targets and are run as businesses. If the practice is performing well, the partners get the profits. This is why they are more interested in taking your blood cholesterol than being nice to you.

The 300k GP's are the exception, not the rule. Trust me, if GP's were paid 300k I'd be training as a GP, not an anaesthetist. It's very difficult to be made a partner in a practice, for obvious reasons. Current GP trainees, including my wife, have almost no chance of becoming practice partners.

The typical knee-jerk Labour reaction makes me laugh - the usual soundbyte about freezing or cutting GP salaries. The salaries aren't the problem, its the amount of money GP practices are paid for services.
If you cut a GP's pay by 5%, the standard GP's will get a 5% cut but the practice partners will get a much smaller cut because only a small proportion of their wage is for working as a GP.

Doctor_Gloom

Well I think I can speak on this subject with much more authority than anyone else here. 200 plus grand p.a. for a 30 hour working week is hard to beat. All I do is sit in a warm office all day, drink tea and knock a few prescriptions out. The holidays and pension are fantastic too. It's a great job, money for old rope, lovely jubbly. :beer:

Blacksheep1979

hard choice this - £16k in benefits to someone with kids who is never going to work and contribute to society vs. £100k for someone that's worked hard studying for years, has to continue to learn new practices/techniques and products and saves lives. I know where I prefer my tax going...

peterg1965

The other disgrace is that the average GP earns over £100K a year and the NHS still has to bring in locum GPs to cover out of hours cover - foreign GPs who do not necessarily have to speak English and who have caused patients to die.

Another disaster by the Govt, who pandered to Doctors, awarded them obscene pay rises and contracts which allowed them to escape a committment to out of hours cover.

prowla

So, precisely how many NHS GPs earn £300k?
If the co-owner of several practices does, then that seems about right to me, in all honesty.

docjames_2

Haha what a waste of newspaper columns. I can find you a "Top" of any profession - lawyer, accountant, teacher, nurse etc etc who earns in the region of £300,000!

Im a GP - work full time - so Monday - Friday 8am till 6.30pm (standard working hours for a full time GP). i will not count the extra hour i am there each evening till 7.30pm doing paperwork. Obviously there are also part timeGPs just as there are in any other profession - they will earn a proportion of the full time earning equivalent. I work with 3 other full time partners - if you look at our "headline earnings" as the paper would print it - we earn just under £300,000 each - so approx £1.1 million for our practice of 8200 patients. From that money we pay 5 practice nurses, 1 practice manager, 16 receptionists/admin/backroom staff, 2 cleaners, electricity, gas, telephone, equipment, building and consumables etc etc.
Our pre-tax income per GP was £76,000 each last year - for approx 57.5 hours a week. i work 47 weeks a year and get 5 weeks annual leave. Therefore PRE-TAX, i make about £28 an hour!

I am by no means the highest or the lowest earning GP partner in my area. Im probably average. I have no other earnings and no other job...My hours are more than standard 9-5 office hours and my hourly pay is nowhere near most other professional rates - just think how much your car mechanic, plumber or joiner charges you per hour!

Therefore there are your figures as it actually plays out from a headline of £300,000 a year! Cant give it to you any clearer than that...

DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE GOVERNMENT WANT YOU TO BELIEVE!

CLAPTON

docjames wrote: »

Haha what a waste of newspaper columns. I can find you a "Top" of any profession - lawyer, accountant, teacher, nurse etc etc who earns in the region of £300,000!

Im a GP - work full time - so Monday - Friday 8am till 6.30pm (standard working hours for a full time GP). i will not count the extra hour i am there each evening till 7.30pm doing paperwork. Obviously there are also part timeGPs just as there are in any other profession - they will earn a proportion of the full time earning equivalent. I work with 3 other full time partners - if you look at our "headline earnings" as the paper would print it - we earn just under £300,000 each - so approx £1.1 million for our practice of 8200 patients. From that money we pay 5 practice nurses, 1 practice manager, 16 receptionists/admin/backroom staff, 2 cleaners, electricity, gas, telephone, equipment, building and consumables etc etc.
Our pre-tax income per GP was £76,000 each last year - for approx 57.5 hours a week. i work 47 weeks a year and get 5 weeks annual leave. Therefore PRE-TAX, i make about £28 an hour!

I am by no means the highest or the lowest earning GP partner in my area. Im probably average. I have no other earnings and no other job...My hours are more than standard 9-5 office hours and my hourly pay is nowhere near most other professional rates - just think how much your car mechanic, plumber or joiner charges you per hour!

Therefore there are your figures as it actually plays out from a headline of £300,000 a year! Cant give it to you any clearer than that...

DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE GOVERNMENT WANT YOU TO BELIEVE!

thank you for posting some real facts

76k is however are fairly good salary and probably puts you in the top 1-2% of the country

its probably a fairly 'average salary' for your field ... many comparable graduates with equally long training earn less

most people earning that sort of salary work far in excess of 35 hours per week even if their contract says different

you don't say your age but I would guess that if you compared yourself with your (non medical) peer group at Uni you would find you are in the top few percent.

wigglebeena

boomerangs wrote: »

No public servant should be earning £300K per year. Gordon Brown doesn't even get that.

No wonder the country owes £700 billion or whatever, the Labour party throws money about like confetti.

Any GP is worth more than Gordon Brown. Some of them are actually useful rather than harmful.