When will the Government come clean...

Butterfly_Brain

The Government telling the Truth :rotfl: :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Kohoutek

StevieJ wrote: »

More likely someone with some nouse has tapped Georgie Porgie on the shoulder and mentioned 'sure double dip'. The bottom line is not many (including the captains of what ever industry is left) have much faith in Osbourne.

Well the CBI have called for earlier, bigger cuts, which is backing what Osborne said originally. Do they not count as the captains of industry?

James Dyson, John Rose (CEO of Rolls Royce) and Christopher Gent (non exec chairman of GlaxoSmithKline) have come out in favour of the Tories' proposals to regenerate British industry.

What captains of industry support Labour's economic plans?

JP45

Kohoutek wrote: »

Gordon Brown has been lying (or frighteningly deluded) ever since he claimed he abolished boom and bust.

You're absolutely right, but as Martin Wolf pointed out, what Gordon Brown actually said (or meant to say) was:

“No more Tory boom and bust”, he said. So the UK has had Labour boom and bust, instead.

chucky

Kohoutek wrote: »

Well the CBI have called for earlier, bigger cuts, which is backing what Osborne said originally. Do they not count as the captains of industry?

James Dyson, John Rose (CEO of Rolls Royce) and Christopher Gent (non exec chairman of GlaxoSmithKline) have come out in favour of the Tories' proposals to regenerate British industry.

What captains of industry support Labour's economic plans?

is this the not the same James Dyson that shut down his Wiltshire factory so that he could move his production to the far East to that he could take advantage of lower production costs. what a great captain of UK industry!!!

he's really interested in re-generating British industry - you keep flying that Tory flag, don't forget they can do no wrong!!!

StevieJ

Kohoutek wrote: »

Well the CBI have called for earlier, bigger cuts, which is backing what Osborne said originally. Do they not count as the captains of industry?

James Dyson, John Rose (CEO of Rolls Royce) and Christopher Gent (non exec chairman of GlaxoSmithKline) have come out in favour of the Tories' proposals to regenerate British industry.

What captains of industry support Labour's economic plans?

The ones that don't want us moving into depression :eek: BTW I thought Dyson had moved to China?

Sir_Humphrey

Talking of Gideon, I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when he saw this story!

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23814807-george-osborne-will-go-quietly-if-fired-reveals-david-cameron.do

George Osborne will go quietly if fired, reveals David Cameron

I wonder who planted that one!

Kohoutek

chucky wrote: »

is this the not the same James Dyson that shut down his Wiltshire factory so that he could move his production to the far East to that he could take advantage of lower production costs.

he's really interested in re-generating British industry - you keep flying that Tory flag, they can do no wrong!!!

Nothing to do with the point I was making, but whatever. Typical desperate Labour apologist. I was just pointing out that if the CBI is not behind Labour, by definition the majority of the captains of british industry aren't either.

Dyson still have jobs in the UK - just look at their website.

I don't think the Tories can do no wrong, I just think it's time for a change when you're faced with the alternative of another five years of Gordon Brown, his failed policies and inability to admit mistakes.

Kohoutek

StevieJ wrote: »

The ones that don't want us moving into depression :eek: BTW I thought Dyson had moved to China?

Go-on, spit it out. Who are these captains of industry that are behind Labour you talk of?

chucky

Kohoutek wrote: »

Nothing to do with the point I was making, but whatever. Typical desperate Labour apologist. I was just pointing out that if the CBI is not behind Labour, by definition the majority of the captains of british industry aren't either.

backtrack, backtrack, backtrack - you do make me laugh.
make a statement but now turn around and say that wasn't what you were saying :eek:

i'm not a Labour voter btw, just don't believe in your Tory mantra that they are going to be the knights in shining armour

Sir_Humphrey

Ken Clarke would be a far better Chancellor than George Osborne, but that will not happen because he is pro-European. Kenneth Clarke would also have been the best leader of the opposition in 1997 if not for the effect it would have had on the Tory party.

It would split the Tories down the middle.

Ken Clarke is not all he is cracked up to be though. For example he invented PFI and used it for the Croydon Tramlink for example. This (surprise, surprise) ended up being bought out by the public sector because it did not allow for purchasing extra trams to meet increased traffic. Whoops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon_Tramlink

In 1996 Tramtrack Croydon Limited (TCL) won a 99 year Private Finance Initiative (PFI) contract to design, build, operate and maintain the Tramlink system. Under this contract Tramtrack Croydon Ltd kept the revenue generated by Tramlink and LRT had to pay compensation to TCL for any changes to the fares and ticketing policy introduced later.[3]
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In March 2008 TfL announced that it had reached agreement to buy Tramtrack Croydon Limited (TCL) for £98m. The purchase was finalised on 28 June 2008.[5] The background to this purchase relates to the requirement that TfL (who took over from London Regional Transport in 2000) compensates TCL for the consequences of any changes to the fares and ticketing policy introduced since 1996. In 2007 that payment was £4m, with an annual increase in rate.[3]