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Age 7 government child trust fund payments not being released!!!
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ultrawomble wrote: »:eek:
Yes, we the tax-payer did benefit from Gordon's actions against the monies saved up from children's birthdays and secular/non-secular festivals. :beer:
But lo! he felt guilty about that and decided to repent by rewarding every child in the Kingdom with a shiny CTF voucher at birth and again on their 7th birthday from the kindness of the tax-payer who'd benefited previously by his wicked actions. :A
When did he repay all the children he stole from?
Those who received CTF (and those who didn't) will have to pay it back in their taxes, as Brown borrowed the money for these type of new benefits. The money was never there. So now the children will have all the interest to pay back and the monies he borrowed, through paying higher taxes, less benefits, less services, working longer.
If the markets turn against us, the country will be in an even worse financial position than we are in now.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
Why is it that everyone here appears to presume that every pensioner is poor, struggling etc....
Just about all of the arguments used for the reasons why the CTF was scrapped could be applied to winter fuel payments.
WFP are not means tested, so the millionaire pensioner living in his mansion would still get the same payment as the pensioner living in a council flat.
Also, why is there the impression that every pensioner has contributed so much to society?
Surely there have been plenty of people on benefits going back through the years, these people will ultimately end up pensioners. Never contributed a penny, but still getting paid for by the state.
The welfare system was set up after the second world war so it is unlikely as you state that plenty of our pensioners today were reliant on state handouts and continued to do so and did not contribute a penny.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »I We shouldn't force babies to sleep in drawers and clean chimneys because of it.
Please do not assume it was cruel to put babies to sleep in the bottom drawer... this method was used by countless parents before the days of being able to afford the luxury of a travel cot!0 -
Have read these posts with interest, I am surprised you refer to the self righteous brigade having yourself been so vocal. Vocal is one thing, attempting poorly to pour scorn on the less well off by way of prancing on a high horse, is quite something else, quite a significant difference dontcha think.:D
My assumption (and I stand to be corrected) is that you benefit greatly from welfare handouts yourself hence your stance on digging your heels in if anyone else says different. That's rather a pathetic tbh, assumption being the mother of all F*** up's and all that. Why on earth would I need to be on 'benefit handouts' in order to have a social concience? That seems to be a common line of attack from the self-righteous brigade "I know, that person is sticking up for poor people, she must be on benefits herself" kind of thing. Wow, just wow.
No one wants to see any child in poverty. What most citizens want is a fairer system. Yes, same here, and one that doesn't put children into poverty. Whether Sure start grants are useful or useless, is subjective, many people will need them, and some don't. The point is that all we have on here is ranters implying that we have a country full of (as one person put it) "pregnant chavs" that get all this money. We all have choices, and if a couple decide to have children Not all children are created as a result of a conscious choice, even those that are, didn't choose to be born, I still fail to see why they should suffer if their parents aren't high earners. ALL people have the right to a family, or shall we wipe out the third world too? then it is their responsibility to feed, clothe and house that child (as millions of us have done previously) without the reliance on welfare Even those that have a welfare top up do so, how arrogant of you to imply those hardworkers on low incomes, or even those people who have had problems in their time are less worthy as parents that you. How on earth do you think we coped before all these benefits were introduced? At one point we coped by sending children up chimneys *rolls eyes* I have no idea why so many people are against progress. We did without luxuries knowing we had extra mouths to feed. This generation of expecting everyone else to pay for their decisions has to end. .
I'm only amazed no one has suggested sterilisation yet.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »I'm only amazed no one has suggested sterilisation yet.
It is pretty poor to use bad language towards my opinions. Your replies to posts on here have been utterly ludicrous. I have under no circumstances poured scorn on low earners or stated that high earning parents are any better. In fact, you have shot down (in my opinion) many good ideas that have been suggested on here. Your replies have been to simply and continually throw money at the situation, with no recognition or understanding as to where this money is coming from. Moreover, you insult poor families with your theory that they all need financial assistance in order to make their lives better.
And by the way, you have not confirmed whether you are indeed in receipt or not of any kind of social welfare. It was an assumption of mine which merely required a yes or no and not abuse.0 -
It is pretty poor to use bad language towards my opinions. It's a saying, "Assumption is the mother of all f*** up" In fact you proved the proverb right
Get over yourself Mary Whitehouse. Your replies to posts on here have been utterly ludicrous. As opposed to your enlightened waffle of course? I have under no circumstances poured scorn on low earners or stated that high earning parents are any better. Many have, many can't differentiate between the occasional layabout, and those in genuine need, prefering a "scrap the lot" mentality. In fact, you have shot down (in my opinion) many good ideas that have been suggested on here. Your replies have been to simply and continually throw money at the situation, Not even at one single point have I suggested I support CTF or even Sure Start grants, I simply acknowledge many people in need appreciate them, and I simply counter the mentality of the self-rigtheous brigade, whose main point of argument against them is "we didnt' have them in the olden days didn't do us any harm" If you have avidly read this thread as you claim, you'll be more than able to find me a quote where I have suggested throwing money at a 'situation' as opposed to baseless rhetoric.with no recognition or understanding as to where this money is coming from. Moreover, you insult poor families with your theory that they all need financial assistance in order to make their lives better. Could you please quote me, whereby I stated that "ALL they need is financial assistance to make their lives better". I'll wait a while.
And by the way, you have not confirmed whether you are indeed in receipt or not of any kind of social welfare. It was an assumption of mine which merely required a yes or no and not abuse. Why on earth would I confirm or deny anything, I'm not discussing 'me' on here? Are you a rapist? Confirm or deny.
I'll give you ample opportunity to back up your baseless claims and assumptions. :rotfl:All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Please do not assume it was cruel to put babies to sleep in the bottom drawer... this method was used by countless parents before the days of being able to afford the luxury of a travel cot!
Ahahahaha, I have no idea why so many people are against progress.
We used to live in caves too (some people still do).:rotfl:All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
It is pretty poor to use bad language towards my opinions. Your replies to posts on here have been utterly ludicrous. I have under no circumstances poured scorn on low earners or stated that high earning parents are any better. In fact, you have shot down (in my opinion) many good ideas that have been suggested on here. Your replies have been to simply and continually throw money at the situation, with no recognition or understanding as to where this money is coming from. Moreover, you insult poor families with your theory that they all need financial assistance in order to make their lives better.
And by the way, you have not confirmed whether you are indeed in receipt or not of any kind of social welfare. It was an assumption of mine which merely required a yes or no and not abuse.
Mary671. You only have to look at the number of thanks your posts have compared to the other one.0 -
POPPYOSCAR wrote: »Mary671. You only have to look at the number of thanks your posts have compared to the other one.
Yes, there is about 3 or 4 avid readers who support the very mentality I am arguing against wow. What does that mean? That more than one person can't differentiate between people in genuine need, and 'pregnant chavs' (as one of them so kindly put it). :rotfl:All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »I'll give you ample opportunity to back up your baseless claims and assumptions. :rotfl:
Your reluctance to give a straight answer would confirm my theory that in fact you do.
You have no clear facts to back up any of your statements and your assumptions about many people including myself are in bad taste.
And you think your attitude and beliefs are good for progress? You have no idea.0
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