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liability order info

Hi, The CSA are taking me to court this week to get a liability order, as they are chasing me for arrears. I am currently in dispute with them over the amount they are asking for. I have just recieved an appeals booklet from them and I'm hoping that this will now finally be looked at and i'll be reassed using my correct income details.

My question is, will I benifit form going to the court? It is 70 miles away and I'm struggling to get time off work. Am I going to get a chance to have my say and provide them with the correct info?

Thanks.
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  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    tim_saver wrote: »
    Hi, The CSA are taking me to court this week to get a liability order, as they are chasing me for arrears. I am currently in dispute with them over the amount they are asking for. I have just recieved an appeals booklet from them and I'm hoping that this will now finally be looked at and i'll be reassed using my correct income details.

    My question is, will I benifit form going to the court? It is 70 miles away and I'm struggling to get time off work. Am I going to get a chance to have my say and provide them with the correct info?

    Thanks.

    From Experience the order will get granted anyway .

    The judge isn't allowed to question how the alleged arrears are made up .In my case it was obvious that the CSA had screwed up and took 4 sittings before he would grant it and didn't award costs against me .

    The appeals process could be lenghthy and will not benefit you short term .
  • karatedragon
    karatedragon Posts: 1,148 Forumite
    Why are you going to court? You should face up to your responsibilites and pay up. If you had done that then you would not be in the dock.

    I am guessing your dispute is that you are being charged too much. However, surely, where your child is concerned money should be no object.
  • tim_saver
    tim_saver Posts: 10 Forumite
    Why are you going to court? You should face up to your responsibilites and pay up. If you had done that then you would not be in the dock.

    I am guessing your dispute is that you are being charged too much. However, surely, where your child is concerned money should be no object.


    Thanks for replys.

    I do pay for my child and have done for past 11 years. My problems is that they have assessed me on my wrong income between 2005 and 2008 and this resulted in a £11k error.

    Yes, money should be no object with regards to children but if I haven't earnt it I can't pay it!
  • speedster
    speedster Posts: 1,300 Forumite
    Why are you going to court? You should face up to your responsibilites and pay up. If you had done that then you would not be in the dock.

    I am guessing your dispute is that you are being charged too much. However, surely, where your child is concerned money should be no object.

    posts like that will get you a long way and lots of offers of help.................................

    still. no doubt the "wimmin" will appreciate it. ;)
    NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT. THEY'LL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.

    and, please. only thank when appropriate. not to boost idiots egos.
  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    Why are you going to court? You should face up to your responsibilites and pay up. If you had done that then you would not be in the dock.

    I am guessing your dispute is that you are being charged too much. However, surely, where your child is concerned money should be no object.

    UNTIL YOU KNOW THE FULL CIRCUMSTANCES FROM THE OP SAY SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE .

    You must be one of the perfect cases the CSA have .I'd maybe sit back and take note before sticking yer oar in .I have a similar experiance to the OP and i am doing something constructive and guideing the OP through my experiences
  • speedster
    speedster Posts: 1,300 Forumite
    i think the word is "troll" ;)
    NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT. THEY'LL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.

    and, please. only thank when appropriate. not to boost idiots egos.
  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    Anyone know where i could get a better deal on my electricity and i need a new mobile phone :)


    karatedragon back to your own constructive posts


    Tim any more help needed let me know .I am going through appeal just now for a similar situation as they had screwed me for £11k as well with 2 liability orders which one of them was illegally sought by the CSA .The rest is going to tribunal
  • karatedragon
    karatedragon Posts: 1,148 Forumite
    edited 7 March 2010 at 10:29PM
    I can't see the point of the CSA. I would rather come to a private agreement with a wayward partner that has my child. Can't you do that?

    If there is a miscalculation in values resulting in court action then surely you can prove this with old pay slips and banks statements.

    An I am not a troll. But anyone who gives their "honest" opinon on here that doesn't conform to everyone else's ideals is always daubed that.

    All I know is I would pay all of my disposable income towards any of my children's needs without hesitation. As far as I have read (and I have limited knowledge) on the CSA website is that there is a flat rate for the non-resident parent who earns less than £100 a week of just £5 per week.

    That said I would rather not get involved with a quango like the CSA.
  • tim_saver
    tim_saver Posts: 10 Forumite
    I can't see the point of the CSA. I would rather come to a private agreement with a wayward partner that has my child. Can't you do that?

    If there is a miscalculation in values resulting in court action then surely you can prove this with old pay slips and banks statements.

    An I am not a troll. But anyone who gives their "honest" opinon on here that doesn't conform to everyone else's ideals is always daubed that.


    Well dragon, I can prove there is a miscalculation, but the csa being such a ignorant organisation they won't re-assess me because they say I didn't contact them within 28 days of the assesment. I did acctually contact them within 28 days and they said they will look into it and get back to me, they didn't. So i wrote to them showing their miss calculation, I didn't get a reply. so I wrote to them again and again and again, never with a reply. I have reccently been speaking to them and they say they have no record of me calling within 28 days and wont reasses me even though the assessment is wrong! I said to them is it possibly that they didn't log my call, and they told me it WAS possible! I would be better off banging my head against a brick wall than talk with them!
  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    tim_saver wrote: »
    Well dragon, I can prove there is a miscalculation, but the csa being such a ignorant organisation they won't re-assess me because they say I didn't contact them within 28 days of the assesment. I did acctually contact them within 28 days and they said they will look into it and get back to me, they didn't. So i wrote to them showing their miss calculation, I didn't get a reply. so I wrote to them again and again and again, never with a reply. I have reccently been speaking to them and they say they have no record of me calling within 28 days and wont reasses me even though the assessment is wrong! I said to them is it possibly that they didn't log my call, and they told me it WAS possible! I would be better off banging my head against a brick wall than talk with them!


    Tim

    Apply for your data protection files it costs £10 now .It should take 40 days but sometimes takes longer .If you know roughly the dates you spoke to them the dp files will show this up as each conversation is supposed to be logged .

    Mines showed a load of lies on my account and they are suffering for it now as they had acted illegaly .I have just finished another rant of a letter to the central appeals unit .There are quite a few good CSA officers if they are on your side but some complet (o)holes also .
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