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  • PasturesNew
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    elona wrote: »
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    When we were looking for our retirement car a few months ago, we contacted loads of garages to get the best deal on a Bipper Tepee.

    We ended up with a better deal for a brand new one with extras than we had for a demo model. Think it's because the garage is up North (drive 20 miles and you would be in the sea) and is not in a place where people go past regularly. If you want to know the name p.m. me.

    Have you read the Alan Bennett (true) story "The lady in the van?"
    I've added the Bipper Tepee to my list of "might be what I want" cars. On first glance, this seems to be similar to the Fiat Qubo for size .... which I thought might be a bit small.

    One odd criteria I have is "can you hang a dress up", interview clothes..... I measured and 118cm from hanging point to the floor is needed for this. Qubo didn't quite measure up.

    There don't seem to be many Bippers listed for sale online ... I'll keep looking, see what I come up with.

    No, I haven't read the book. I can't read :)
  • PasturesNew
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    I'm sat here and it's peeing down outside.... and I am in a lean to with a polycarbonate roof.... blimey it's loud. So, I am sitting in here to think: "If I were in the van right now, and it were raining, and I had no electricity .... where'd I be, what'd I be doing. That's the trouble with a van, you've not actually got the "home comforts" of a camper van.... but I just don't have the confidence that I'd buy one that wasn't a heap of sluggish junk, a pain to drive and park .... oh decisions, decisions.... I can't actually make personal decisions easily.

    :(

    I am starting to think about what I am trying to achieve .... and I don't think it is to LIVE in the van, just to have that as a last resort option, so I'm mobile.

    Access to electricity will be a pain. I can stay on sites with leccy, I can get a special lead for that from camping shops. This really means getting an awning/tent and having to put it up as you can't sit in the back of a van with the window open for the lead in all weathers.... I was looking at big 4-man Dome pop up tents last night. Cheap and small storage space required. Overall, though, buying electricity through a hookup pitch can be quite pricey, with many charging £2-3/night it's certainly more than I'd spend on electricity running a whole house.

    This is where things fail in England: the bl00dy weather.
  • fc123
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    I'm sat here and it's peeing down outside.... and I am in a lean to with a polycarbonate roof.... blimey it's loud. So, I am sitting in here to think: "If I were in the van right now, and it were raining, and I had no electricity .... where'd I be, what'd I be doing. That's the trouble with a van, you've not actually got the "home comforts" of a camper van.... but I just don't have the confidence that I'd buy one that wasn't a heap of sluggish junk, a pain to drive and park .... oh decisions, decisions.... I can't actually make personal decisions easily.

    :(

    I am starting to think about what I am trying to achieve .... and I don't think it is to LIVE in the van, just to have that as a last resort option, so I'm mobile.

    Access to electricity will be a pain. I can stay on sites with leccy, I can get a special lead for that from camping shops. This really means getting an awning/tent and having to put it up as you can't sit in the back of a van with the window open for the lead in all weathers.... I was looking at big 4-man Dome pop up tents last night. Cheap and small storage space required. Overall, though, buying electricity through a hookup pitch can be quite pricey, with many charging £2-3/night it's certainly more than I'd spend on electricity running a whole house.

    This is where things fail in England: the bl00dy weather.

    Seriously for a mo....A Tent?

    OK, today I did the school pick up and took pics ...but bad as sea mist had come in and DD wouldn't get out of the car to take pics, with swishy houses behind fairly grim van....it was all...Muuum are you a nutter?
    I have to go out to cinema now, but will try and load up tomo....anyway....looked at numberplate and Belgium so just holiday makers....or could be owned by poeple visiting someone in swishy house. But swishy houses have driveways for several vehicles....so I think they are having a mini break.

    There is a field at bottom of my garden on the cliff top and a tent was there last weekend..and I saw the occupant....he looked very smart.....I haven't walked down since then so I will find out if he is having a hol or has moved in.

    I also went to photograph the other 3 vans today as I went to PO and all have gone (!) though the squatters seem to have had another 10 persons move in the other day....they occupy 2 houses.

    You know what, I write this, I read it back and I have 3 near neighbours all trying to sell for over a million at the mo...and 3 beds only. I think the wolrd has gone a bit gaga.
  • fc123
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    vanedit.jpg]Ok my 1st attempt at loading own photo onto MSE.


    ?action=view&current=vanedit.jpg

    Not working...I loaded to photo bucket and got link? Can't work out what I am doing wrong and got no time to work it out right now...will try later unless anyone can type me out a step by step?
  • PasturesNew
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    fc123 wrote: »
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    That works. That's a LOT bigger than I had in mind ...

    I've had a change of plan .... but I don't want to say anything about it here for 2-3 weeks because I want to see how things turn out ... but, I've shortlisted preferred vehicles, even though I've only ever seen photos of them on t'Internet. Nearest are always 200 miles away :)
  • fc123
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    That works. That's a LOT bigger than I had in mind ...

    I've had a change of plan .... but I don't want to say anything about it here for 2-3 weeks because I want to see how things turn out ... but, I've shortlisted preferred vehicles, even though I've only ever seen photos of them on t'Internet. Nearest are always 200 miles away :)

    How comes I can only see a red cross?

    Change of plan:)...hope it goes OK...every option is worth at try.
  • fc123
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    Yay...i had to remove the ING bits.
  • fc123
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    Well...for research I went down to the field to ask the man in the tent why he was living there and he'd gone.

    I took another pic as the travellers have pitched up in the park Their caravans are luxe and enormous plus they all have vans. I am going to try and load it now.
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  • dopester
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    Great pics fc. Good of you to keep this thread in mind, armed with camera, to take the motorhome pic. That motorhome, obviously I can only see part of it, but it looks pretty cool. Probably a very comfortable mobile set-up for fulltime living. Someone actually doing it out there for real.

    It seems to me the fulltime traveller groups prefer caravan solutions, as in your other pic.

    This mobile fulltime living... so many variables to consider. On one hand PN would like some space and homely comforts (which I fully understand). Then sees other advantages of different smaller solutions... including those which can be towed by car. Caravan versus motorhome.

    Those teardrop style trailer things though are really too small for practical full time living don't you think PN, day after day, night after night. I recall you want some space for your gear as well, including clothes. Are they winterized? Can you connect and carry gas/power?
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