Ryanair policy - need advise....

CIS

I came back from the US, (New York - Newcastle) and we had some little bonsai sets which we had put in the hand luggage, both contained sharp ,pointed scissors, and somehow they never got picked up at the security check, we only noticed when we got home.

pandas66

lisyloo wrote:

I have done it myself by mistake.
I took a pair of nail clippers which had other attachements on.
One of them was a very nasty looking bottle opener type.

Totally by mistake.
But if they take it off you, you just have to accept it.

I wouldn't say, don't take any sharp objects because I do find I need to cut my toenails sometimes, but they should go in luggage and not hand luagge.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

glad it was a mistake!

obviously my friend did it on purpose and deserves to be punished!



and btw a bottle opener could never look nasty unless it was broken!:D

lisyloo

glad it was a mistake!
obviously my friend did it on purpose and deserves to be punished!

You did not initially specific what your friend was angry about.
I have checked your post and it definitely reads that she was angry about the fact that she had to check her bag in.

If she's angry because she forgot to do something then obviously that's quite human and something we all do from time to time, so no punushment required :-)

pandas66

lisyloo wrote:

You did not initially specific what your friend was angry about.
I have checked your post and it definitely reads that she was angry about the fact that she had to check her bag in.

If she's angry because she forgot to do something then obviously that's quite human and something we all do from time to time, so no punushment required :-)

In my inital post I said she was not happy........quite a world away from angry, to get get angry AT airport staff would've been wrong/out of order and maybe not gain access to the flight she booked and the weekend trip being ruined for her.
It was a small gentle warning of what NOT to do, I think you misread my post but assumed a great deal! assumed is not fact and she was no where near what you described in your rather insulting and over assuming post!

lisyloo

I think you misread my post but assumed a great deal! assumed is not fact and she was no where near what you described in your rather insulting and over assuming post!

I disagree with you.
You said ... and I quote

the case then had to be checked in........she was not happy!

This clearly reads to me that she was not happy about her case having to be checked in as one follows as a consequence of the other.
She could be not happy about world hunger or nuclear power for all I know but the way you've written it certain implies it was the case having to be checked in that she was not happy about.
You did not say that she was not happy at herself for having made a human mistake. There is nothing at all to indicate this.

I don't see "she was not happy" with emphasis added by an exclamation mark as being terribly far from being "angry" but I think you are just now getting petty over the semantics.
If you don't want to add emphasis to an emotion then why add the exclamation mark to empasise it?
If I felt I had read it wrong then I would apologise, but it definitely still reads that way to me with emphasis added about her negative feelings.

I suggest that we agree to disagree and leave it at that.

If you can't leave at that and want to spend your time arguing with me over semantics (don't you have more worthwhile things to do?) then please can I request that you pm me.
I may not be able to reply because I DO have more worthwhile things to do (I'm only replying becuase I'm waiting for my washing machine cycle to finish).

but I would suggest and request at this point that we take it "off board" out of coutesy for others because I don't now think it's adding anything worthwhile to the thread.

Cheers

pandas66

lisyloo wrote:

I disagree with you.
You said ... and I quote



This clearly reads to me that she was not happy about her case having to be checked in as one follows as a consequence of the other.
She could be not happy about world hunger or nuclear power for all I know but the way you've written it certain implies it was the case having to be checked in that she was not happy about.
You did not say that she was not happy at herself for having made a human mistake. There is nothing at all to indicate this.

I don't see "she was not happy" with emphasis added by an exclamation mark as being terribly far from being "angry" but I think you are just now getting petty over the semantics.
If you don't want to add emphasis to an emotion then why add the exclamation mark to empasise it?
If I felt I had read it wrong then I would apologise, but it definitely still reads that way to me with emphasis added about her negative feelings.

I suggest that we agree to disagree and leave it at that.

If you can't leave at that and want to spend your time arguing with me over semantics (don't you have more worthwhile things to do?) then please can I request that you pm me.
I may not be able to reply because I DO have more worthwhile things to do (I'm only replying becuase I'm waiting for my washing machine cycle to finish).

but I would suggest and request at this point that we take it "off board" out of coutesy for others because I don't now think it's adding anything worthwhile to the thread.

Cheers

and also quote:Then she is being very silly.
The policy is in place for safety reasons.
I can understand someone making a mistake with small items particularly if they are part of a set that you pick up, but the safety implications are blatantly obvious and it's ridiculous to complain.
If she wants to be on a plane that held up by a hijacker that's her choice, but while she flies with other innocent people then she will have to abide by the very obvious safety rules and stop being a silly girl.

BTW - it's very stupid to argue with customs/aiport staff.
They have rubber gloves, so don't go there !!Yesterday 1:51 PM


the semantics of my posts are for you to work out! but to quote is to lift direct phrases or paragraphs of text, not to para phrase.
Semantics again.
In my 1st post I was just passing on a little advice to the OP.
Did you give any advice or did you post yours JUST to cause an arguement?
semantics me thinks.
Your post on plane hijackers is rude to me, to suggest my friend wants to encourage them rather belittles your post, also this is the very reason I have responded rather than let it lie. It was a silly mistake for her to make and that was a valid reason to post it. Just what do you mean posting 'they have rubber gloves, so don't go there'.
Luckily the freedom of speech allows me to politely answer your insinuations here, as you have taken it off topic in your reply to me, I shall have a say also. I don't feel the general public/viewers to this thread would be happy if it were to go pm.
You can make all the assumptions in the world and post them here but i have the right to defend my posting style that wasn't an insult to you, but a post to the OP, wheres yours?btw, this weekend I have all the time in the world to reply to your posts, so don't worry on that score for me.

pandas66

as time of this post there have been 17 replies yet only 7 were directly to the OP (not included any of yours as no apparent advise was given) but 186 views, I think many people will await your reply.

code^express

Lets start again shall we....

This is the 1st time we travel no frill airline (Ryanair) to Berlin. I have no worries when it comes to normal airline like KLM,BA,MAS,Qantas, etc because I know I can check in everything. Whereby no frill is a bit different - & I couldn't be bothered to read their T&C (too long winded). Trying to short cut it by asking those who have used the airline before.

Could somebody tell me whether I can take the following by hand luggage please:- perfume (cannister), battery operated items - shaver, toothbrushes, gameboy DS & SP (to keep the children occupied whilst waiting in the airport), inhaler, digital camera, dried food (for my relative), Cd player and anything that you can think of. Would be grateful for your advise.

WiseInvestor_2

Code,

All of the above (with the exception perhaps of Dried Food because German Customs may object) all of the above are safe in your carry-on luggage.

Ryanair only charge for excess/overweight hold baggage - they actually encourage you to carry as much as possible because then there's less for them to handle and reduced likelihood of losing/damaging anything.

lisyloo

Did you give any advice or did you post yours JUST to cause an arguement?

No I did not do it deliberately to cause an argument as quite simply I have much more worthwhile things to do (like believe it or not helping hundreds of people and donating hundreds of pounds to charity coutesy of these boards).

The advice was to clarify the policy for anyone that really did genuinely not understand what it was all about and to warn people that customs have wide ranging powers.

Your post on plane hijackers is rude to me, to suggest my friend wants to encourage them rather belittles your post

People who are not willing or complain about the policy are in my view putting their own convenience over the safety of others.
I now know that this is not what your friend was doing so the sentence above does not directly apply to your friend.
If someone did put their own convenience first then potentially scissors etc. could be used in a hijack situation so I don't consider it very public spirited to say the least although I now accept that your friend does not fall into this category.

Just what do you mean posting 'they have rubber gloves, so don't go there'.

I was trying to be light hearted i.e. tongue in cheek about the matter, but I will spell it out.
Customs people and security people at airports have wide ranging powers so it isn't a good idea to annoy them.
In an extreme case e.g. lets say someone becomes irrational, then they could suspect you are on drugs and decide to do a strip search.
Obviously it's an extreme case but to spell it out the rubber gloves are there for hygiene reasons when they are searching your various orifices for drugs.
I was warning people that getting into arguments with these people is silly because of the powers they have.
A much less extreme version of events would be you having your sharp object confiscated and destroyed because you refuse to check it in.

I thought every knew the reference to "rubber gloves" but there you go, it's spelt out now in clear terms.

I don't feel the general public/viewers to this thread would be happy if it were to go pm.
You can make all the assumptions in the world and post them here but i have the right to defend my posting style that wasn't an insult to you

None of my posts were meant to be argumentative or insulting.
I'm genuinely sorry you interpreted it that way, but that's down to how you interpreted it rather than the intention.
I was merely trying to be polite to others as I thought they wouldn't be interested.

but a post to the OP, wheres yours?

I have now explained the advice that i was passing on.
Obviously you are entitled to your opinion about the quality but it was inteneded as serious points about security rather than just to be argumentative.

btw, this weekend I have all the time in the world to reply to your posts, so don't worry on that score for me.

I am not worried at all.
Both of us are clearly capable if carrying this on ad infinitum but
1) I don't see the point if we genuinely disagree
2) I was trying to be polite to others (and not runaway)
3) I think both our time would be best directed at helping others and doing good stuff which I would guess you do a lot of as well as me.

I think many people will await your reply.

Apologies for not getting back sooner.
I had other arrangements yesterday.

I would now like to withdraw from this argument.
Not because I want to run away but because I think it has some negative consequences.
One poster has said that they are scared to post which I think is really bad.
Plus I want to spend my time helping people.
I have been thanked 260 times and raised hundreds of pounds for charity from these boards so I don't think I am a bad person in general.
I am genuinely sorry it's gone wrong on this occasion but I see no benefits to continue an argument but if it is causing other posters distress then I am going to put a stop to it (from my side anyway).