Do internal candidates always get the job?

dave4545454

if it's the council, it almost always goes internally

terra_ferma

dave4545454 wrote: »

if it's the council, it almost always goes internally

Every single job in every single council in the UK?
Either you know everything that goes on in every single one of them, or your making assumptions about something you don't know....

dave4545454

i didn't say every single job, i said "almost always".
get some help to learn to read.

VfM4meplse

I think external candidates have a better chance of success simply because you will get away with a bit more BS than the internal candidates.

My advice is to sound authoritative and have plenty of examples of what you have achieved and how, but particularly the impact of these. I would also familiarise your referees of the same so the references support your interview. Good luck!

terra_ferma

dave4545454 wrote: »

i didn't say every single job, i said "almost always".
get some help to learn to read.

I stand corrected...
ALMOST every single job in every single council in the UK?
Either you know everything that goes on in ALMOST every single one of them, or your making assumptions about something you don't know....

Well either you have worked for or had dealing with ALMOST every council in UK, or your are just making a false statement. This is not a personal attack on anyone, it's more about giving misleading information to people who come here for advice from fellow MSErs.
Talking about someone's experience is one thing, but making statements about something you don't know, just confuses the OP.

terra_ferma

VfM4meplse wrote: »

I think external candidates have a better chance of success simply because you will get away with a bit more BS than the internal candidates.

Totally agree with that.
In the case of external candidates the one who is the best at the interview will get the job.
For internal it's more about your performance in your job (and your reputation within the company, as well as networking).

Just to give you an example, at an interview if you had some involvement with a specific project (say attended a meeting or two) you can get away with sounding very knowledgeable, if you are internal they will know that your involvement was marginal, and BS will go against you.

SailorSam

A problem an internal candidate may face is, if it's a higher position he's applying for in the same department, the company may think he may find it difficult to adjust from friend to boss towards his co workers.

kai666

dave4545454 wrote: »

if it's the council, it almost always goes internally

Not the last time i applied internally for a council job. None of the internal people got the jobs.

One problem with internal candidates is that the panel might know the person, or make a few phone calls to people they know, which can make it harder for the internal people, as there could be doubts that wouldn't happen with external people

Internal people can't tell those little white lies either!

Badger_Lady

I've applied for maybe half a dozen internal jobs in my time and never got them. However, I've got almost every external job I've ever applied for

The company where I am now is expanding, so they're very reluctant to shift people around internally because they'll still need to bring someone in to make up the numbers anyway. A friend of mine from work applied for a job that his boss described as a sideways move a few weeks ago, interviewed alongside external candidates, and the job is now being re-advertised because they didn't like any of them!

So don't feel disheartened - you're still in there, OP They wouldn't waste their time interviewing you if they didn't think you were good.

(Incidentally they might waste an internal candidate's time, because it would be treated as part of their personal development and morale)

aj2703

I think it may depend, i would say it would goto the internal candidate if they are already working in the department doing the job. If they just work in the building but don't work in that actual job being advertised then i reckon you have a 50/50 chance.