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Civil Servant Bashing

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  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,617 Forumite
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    edited 8 March 2010 at 12:25PM
    Also, given the O/P saying how overworked he / she was in their department, surely you posted this whilst at work?

    Or were you

    (a) taking an extended lunch break?
    (b) working from home?
    (c) on a flexi day?
    (d) off "sick"?

    Congratulations on single handedly destroying any credence the O/P had gained....
  • Golden_Anemone
    Golden_Anemone Posts: 1,505 Forumite
    Golden Anemone - Performing rights society usually ask for a payment from companies if they play music in the workplace/shops/etc. The money is given to the artists but I'm not sure how exactly its divvied out. I'm sure another company do this as well. There's a whole thread on MSE about it, mostly people complaining about paying PRS.

    Thaks for that Bubblegumcola - I hadn't heard of that before. How much is a performing rights licence? Is it something the staff could reasonably share the cost of among themselves?
  • bingo_bango
    bingo_bango Posts: 2,594 Forumite
    pgilc1 wrote: »
    Also, given the O/P saying how overworked he / she was in their department, surely you posted this whilst at work?

    Or were you

    (a) taking an extended lunch break?
    (b) working from home?
    (c) on a flexi day?
    (d) off "sick"?

    Congratulations on single handedly destroying any credence the O/P had gained....

    A very one sided post. Why is there no option (e) Annual leave?

    Or are we not allowed holidays either? Your own credence is surely at question here also now that you have shown just how narrow minded you are.
  • bingo_bango
    bingo_bango Posts: 2,594 Forumite
    Thaks for that Bubblegumcola - I hadn't heard of that before. How much is a performing rights licence? Is it something the staff could reasonably share the cost of among themselves?

    The royalty per day (being calculated by
    reference to the number of employees
    to whom the music is audible) for each
    half-hour (or part thereof) of
    performance for each unit of 25
    employees (or part thereof) is ............. 12.02 pence (this drops to 8.01 after year 1)

    So for an office of 50 employees it's 2 units x 12.02 x 16 (16 half hours) x 250 (working days in the year) = £961.60 + VAT = £1129.88

    So for 50 employees, they'd have to pay £22.60 each in the first year. The figure for year two is £752.94 or £15.06 each.

    All the info is on the PRS site.

    Now I defy you to find me a CS who is willing to pay £22 a year to listen to the radio :D
  • purt
    purt Posts: 4,710 Forumite
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    edited 8 March 2010 at 10:47AM
    Are you honestly suggesting that a civil servant (or any other public sector worker for that matter) isn't entitled to use the internet whilst in work?

    I think you'll find we do it in the private sector too.
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,617 Forumite
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    culchied wrote: »
    Are you honestly suggesting that a civil servant (or any other public sector worker for that matter) isn't entitled to use the internet whilst in work?

    I think you'll find we do it in the private sector too.

    I just find it ironic and amusing that the O/P came on here complaining of what an unjustified bad rep the civil service has, and someone from the civil service then comes on and complains, during civil service time, on a public internet forum that things are that bad in his department that Northern Ireland tax payers money isnt going to be used to buy a radio licence so that he can sit and listen to the radio in work.

    Are you seriously telling me you dont see the irony there?
  • purt
    purt Posts: 4,710 Forumite
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    pgilc1 wrote: »
    I just find it ironic and amusing that the O/P came on here complaining of what an unjustified bad rep the civil service has, and someone from the civil service then comes on and complains, during civil service time, on a public internet forum that things are that bad in his department that Northern Ireland tax payers money isnt going to be used to buy a radio licence so that he can sit and listen to the radio in work.

    Are you seriously telling me you dont see the irony there?

    I think his gripe about the radio is an entirely different issue.
  • Golden_Anemone
    Golden_Anemone Posts: 1,505 Forumite
    The royalty per day (being calculated by
    reference to the number of employees
    to whom the music is audible) for each
    half-hour (or part thereof) of
    performance for each unit of 25
    employees (or part thereof) is ............. 12.02 pence (this drops to 8.01 after year 1)

    So for an office of 50 employees it's 2 units x 12.02 x 16 (16 half hours) x 250 (working days in the year) = £961.60 + VAT = £1129.88

    So for 50 employees, they'd have to pay £22.60 each in the first year. The figure for year two is £752.94 or £15.06 each.

    All the info is on the PRS site.

    Now I defy you to find me a CS who is willing to pay £22 a year to listen to the radio :D

    Thanks bingo - the PRS site was down until 1 on Saturday morning when I asked the question. Can you tell I'm an impatient civil servant? :p

    That's quite a lot of money. :eek:

    I wonder if all the businesses I use have a PRS licence - I'm thinking my dentist, local shop, hairdresser. All places I hear the radio on at every time I'm there.
  • drew2k9
    drew2k9 Posts: 521 Forumite
    i doubt any of those places would, maybe some like dentists might, they usually have tvs too, so may be more in the know regarding licencing etc.

    my work has a radio, were only allowed to listen at christmas though...
  • cooki2222
    cooki2222 Posts: 518 Forumite
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    drew2k9 wrote: »
    i doubt any of those places would, maybe some like dentists might, they usually have tvs too, so may be more in the know regarding licencing etc.

    my work has a radio, were only allowed to listen at christmas though...


    We're all sitting here listening to Citybeat, sometimes Radio 2 or 6 Music (dab radio ya know) just depends whos first into the office in the morning
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