BA win - Victory for common sense

Mr_Lahey

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8523758.stm

After this blow now, surely Unite, combined with all the bad press they have had will stop trying to ruin things for everyone with their pathetic little hissy fit.

malkie76

Absolutely a win for common sense. Suggestion has been made that the support for strike action in this round of ballots is less than previously seen!

I really don't want my upcoming trip to the far east in tatters due to industrial action!

MancBrel

Well, judging from the turnout and outcome of the last ballot for industrial action by BA Unite members. And taking into account the promise not to target Easter holidays. I wouldn't be quick to rule out a strike.

Inactive

BA is obviously (mis) managed by a bunch of idiots, intent on ruining the company.

Mr_Lahey

Inactive wrote: »

BA is obviously (mis) managed by a bunch of idiots, intent on ruining the company.

Clearly the courts don't agree with that.

simongregson

The courts have ruled the ballot was incorrectly carried out, I doubt they have an opinion on how BA is run!

However I would say it is a dangerous route to go down where industrial action can be ruled illegal on such a minor technicality, which would have had no impact on the overall result of the ballot.

I'm sure it will be inconvenient for those traveling by BA whenever there is a strike, however the union's job is to look after the interests of their members, not BA's customers or shareholders. One might argue that as a union they are extremely effective given the generally higher salaries and good pension arrangements of BA cabin staff. Probably a good reason to join a union rather than slate them!

Mr_Lahey

simongregson wrote: »

The courts have ruled the ballot was incorrectly carried out, I doubt they have an opinion on how BA is run!

However I would say it is a dangerous route to go down where industrial action can be ruled illegal on such a minor technicality, which would have had no impact on the overall result of the ballot.

I'm sure it will be inconvenient for those traveling by BA whenever there is a strike, however the union's job is to look after the interests of their members, not BA's customers or shareholders. One might argue that as a union they are extremely effective given the generally higher salaries and good pension arrangements of BA cabin staff. Probably a good reason to join a union rather than slate them!

I disagree, from what i have read it is Unite who are using bullying tactics to 'protect' its members from unavoidable practices/cuts by BA.
Unite may represent it's members, but lets not forget BA cabin crew are amongst the most well paid in the business.
Unite has had bad press since day one, the public are tired of unions bullying antics and holding passengers to ransom.

Unite are hell bent on destroying BA and i doubt they will rest until they reach their stubborn, selfish and unreasonable goal, and when BA collapses as a result or is forced to make even bigger cuts i will laugh in the faces of those who just wouldn't stop pushing for more.

Inactive

Mr_Lahey wrote: »

Clearly the courts don't agree with that.

Only on a technicality, BA Management have no idea of how to run the company, they should all resign.

malkie76

I think some of you are slightly confused, and are referring to the original court decision, and not the latest one, which is on a separate matter.

simongregson

Mr_Lahey wrote: »

Unite may represent it's members, but lets not forget BA cabin crew are amongst the most well paid in the business.

As I said, this is precisely what the union are trying to uphold, the fact that they are amongst the best paid cabin crew shows the union has been effective in its job of representing their members collectively. There was a secret postal ballot with a high turnout and a huge majority in favour of industrial action, I suspect the new ballot will have a similar result.

The only people involved with threats from what I have read seem to be BA, who are threatening to remove staff travel benefits from anyone who participates in legal industrial action.

will-in-estoril

BA crew members have taken out mortgages based on their salaries. What are they supposed to do now: roll over and play dead?

These are ordinary men and women fighting for basic rights, so often decried by the Daily Mail and rest of the right wing press.

I agree, the odds are stacked against them, largely due to anti-union legislation passed in the 80s and not repealed by new Labour, yet they still stand up to be counted.

I am very sorry if anyone misses a couple of days in Paris over Easter, but will be far sorrier if the staff lose their homes because they can no longer afford the repayments.

Walsh and other senior BA managers have had years to sort this out: look at the mess they made at Manchester!