Up to 2,000 jobs going at Birmingham City Council

Asheron

a Jobless recovery

lemonjelly

Birmingham council has approx 52000 staff.

They are one of the worst run councils, with some of the worst ratings going.

Particularly their social services dept is understaffed & has been for years. Other depts are similar.

Their manual trades staff know very well how to work the system to maximise their incomes.

If you read the article properly, 2000 job cuts is a best case scenario, as it assumes the satff will agree to a pay freeze - no doubt that will be used as a negotiating tool by the LA when pay negotiations are under way. "we'll give you a 1% rise, but 4000 jobs will have to go!"

And especially for the horse, contributo of nothing but misery:


Now stop posting here & get back to work. Your taxes pay my wages.

Old_Slaphead

lemonjelly wrote: »

Birmingham council has approx 52000 staff.

They are one of the worst run councils, with some of the worst ratings going.

Particularly their social services dept is understaffed & has been for years. Other depts are similar.

Their manual trades staff know very well how to work the system to maximise their incomes.

If you read the article properly, 2000 job cuts is a best case scenario, as it assumes the satff will agree to a pay freeze - no doubt that will be used as a negotiating tool by the LA when pay negotiations are under way. "we'll give you a 1% rise, but 4000 jobs will have to go!"

Looks like the management should start managing properly if one part of the council is struggling and another part is working the system.

As for pay freezes - it's about time public workers started to feel some of the pain that a shrinking economy causes. Millions in the private sector have been made redundant, had pay reductions and freezes for the past 2 years - much of which has, so far, bypassed the public sector.

Mr.Brown_4

Not every story about councils has to be taken down the same road. My immediate thoughts on reading this were that it's 2,000 less people buying laminate flooring at B&Q, planning their next move up the housing ladder, buying new cars, etc. They could work as nurses, milkmen, shop keepers, MP's, bankers or whatever as far as I am concerned - it is more interesting to me to see how the picture for recovery and employment is playing out. And what the effect of that might be.

Plus - on a human level - which I don't really do - it must be absolutely terrible to be made unemployed. Whatever you do.

wolvoman

Cleaver wrote: »

I like this utopian view. Pretty much every private company I've worked for has had dead wood not doing a lot and they haven't been sacked.

Of course there's dead wood in the private sector, but often these people don't last long and it's not at the scale of dead wood in the public sector.

2 years ago I ran a major programme for a Whitehall department with the prime aim being to cut jobs. The council paid over £7m in fees to my employer and paid me nearly £2k a day for over a year. End result: our changes could have realised £20m in savings over 3 years. 220 people were earmarked for redundancy. Guess how many got sacked???
That's right - none. So another £7m of taxpayers money down the drain.

I don't miss them as clients, even if they are good for my bonus.

dave4545454

so that means they'll be a reduction in council tax now there's less council pen pushers to pay now?

yeah right! i bet it goes up to pay for these council bosses pay rises and pensions!

worldtraveller

doire wrote: »

That is shocking news.

It's not shocking at all! It's about time that the bloated public sector took it's share of job cuts. Before people start bleating about essential services, I'm referring to the need for a sword to be taken to the huge number of civil servants and discretionary jobs in the bloated sector. By this I mean the wishy-washy non-jobs that are so typical of the current Government, quango's and local Government.

If the "Director of Communications" and the "Community Space Challenger Co-ordinator", the "Street Football Coordinator" & the "Enviro-Crime Enforcement Officer" think that their jobs are safe....think on! Bye Bye and good riddance!

doire wrote: »

Only the tip of the iceberg of whats coming.

Yup, thankfully very true!

kriss_boy

The_White_Horse wrote: »

only 2000 - should be 22000

useless hateful wastes of my tax money.

and the remaining lot should get a 40% pay cut!!!!!!!!

Seriously, you need to get laid.

How much do you think the average council worker gets paid? Its barely minimum wage I can tell you

Spartacus_Mills

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=493787&in_page_id=2


http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/work/article.html?in_article_id=493627&in_page_id=53928

While public sector jobs jumped 13,000 over the latest quarter to a record of just over six million, private sector jobs fell sharply by 212,000 to 22.8m.
And while private sector workers on an average salary of £460 a week got an average pay rise of just £4 a week - before they pay a penny in tax or National Insurance - their public sector counterparts saw much bigger rises on already larger salaries. On their average salary of £522 a week, their generous pay rise is worth nearly £15 a week.

Yup, times are tough in the public sector, add to that the very generous redundancy package that you do not get in the private sector.

doire_2

Time the public sector faced up to it....big cuts are coming.

The private sector has been battered so why do the public sector think they should be immune?

The fact that many of them were moaning that they had to take a pay freeze for one year makes me sick