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  • In all cases, we may need a couple of minutes of your time
    As it is our duty to ensure that everyone in the UK who needs a licence has one, we may visit your address to check that no licence is required. It's unfortunately necessary to do this, as when we make contact on these visits, a quarter of people are found to need a TV Licence. Please be assured that this is a routine visit, and will take no more than a few minutes. If, during the visit, we find that you do in fact need a licence, you'll need to pay the full licence fee. Please note that you may also face prosecution and a fine of up to £1,000.

    What do they mean by 'if we find that you do in fact need a licence'?
    How will they decide whether I need a licence or not?
    I use TV purely to watch dvds and nothing else. Because there is a cable point to plug in, can they ask me to pay licence?
  • ioscorpio
    ioscorpio Posts: 2,364 Forumite
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    They are purely sales people with targets to hit, so don't answer your door to them.
  • ckerrd
    ckerrd Posts: 2,641 Forumite
    buddy143 wrote: »
    In all cases, we may need a couple of minutes of your time
    As it is our duty to ensure that everyone in the UK who needs a licence has one, we may visit your address to check that no licence is required. It's unfortunately necessary to do this, as when we make contact on these visits, a quarter of people are found to need a TV Licence. Please be assured that this is a routine visit, and will take no more than a few minutes. If, during the visit, we find that you do in fact need a licence, you'll need to pay the full licence fee. Please note that you may also face prosecution and a fine of up to £1,000.

    What do they mean by 'if we find that you do in fact need a licence'?
    How will they decide whether I need a licence or not?
    I use TV purely to watch dvds and nothing else. Because there is a cable point to plug in, can they ask me to pay licence? NO they cannot.

    A good question. If they do turn up at your door you need not let them in or even talk to them so quite how they would determine that you might "need" a licence is beyond me.
    We all evolve - get on with it
  • Dr.Shoe_2
    Dr.Shoe_2 Posts: 1,028 Forumite
    Here's a problem.

    If you have any equipment whatsoever that is designed or adapted to recieve a live broadcast then you DO need a TV licence. This does include an internet connection. having a HDTV or even a monitor that can take a broadcast feed will require a TV licence. Even if you can prove that the TV has been rendered incapable of recieving a signal you need a licence.

    There are no loopholes, and I have 1000 reasons to say that as that was the size of my fine.

    I thought I'd just watch telly on my PC to get away without a licence but they can check ISP records easier than they can park a detector van outside your house. Even watching something that is not live on Iplayer will need a licence. Even watching DVDs a friend has recorded for you will, unless watched on a portable DVD player, will require a licence. There is no way round it and if caught you will be taken to court. BTW, using the portable DVD player angle will land you with an unlimited fine and up to 10 years in jail for piracy.
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  • Dr.Shoe wrote: »
    Here's a problem.

    If you have any equipment whatsoever that is designed or adapted to recieve a live broadcast then you DO need a TV licence. This does include an internet connection. having a HDTV or even a monitor that can take a broadcast feed will require a TV licence. Even if you can prove that the TV has been rendered incapable of recieving a signal you need a licence.

    There are no loopholes, and I have 1000 reasons to say that as that was the size of my fine.

    I thought I'd just watch telly on my PC to get away without a licence but they can check ISP records easier than they can park a detector van outside your house. Even watching something that is not live on Iplayer will need a licence. Even watching DVDs a friend has recorded for you will, unless watched on a portable DVD player, will require a licence. There is no way round it and if caught you will be taken to court. BTW, using the portable DVD player angle will land you with an unlimited fine and up to 10 years in jail for piracy.

    What absolute nonsense.
  • ckerrd
    ckerrd Posts: 2,641 Forumite
    edited 10 February 2010 at 10:35AM
    Dr.Shoe wrote: »
    Here's a problem.

    If you have any equipment whatsoever that is designed or adapted to recieve a live broadcast then you DO need a TV licence. This does include an internet connection. having a HDTV or even a monitor that can take a broadcast feed will require a TV licence. Even if you can prove that the TV has been rendered incapable of recieving a signal you need a licence.

    There are no loopholes, and I have 1000 reasons to say that as that was the size of my fine.

    I thought I'd just watch telly on my PC to get away without a licence but they can check ISP records easier than they can park a detector van outside your house. Even watching something that is not live on Iplayer will need a licence. Even watching DVDs a friend has recorded for you will, unless watched on a portable DVD player, will require a licence. There is no way round it and if caught you will be taken to court. BTW, using the portable DVD player angle will land you with an unlimited fine and up to 10 years in jail for piracy.

    What an interesting post.

    It is of course 100% wrong, so I do hope no-one takes any notice of it.

    EDIT - just to prove that what DR. Shoe has posted is rubbish here is a line from the TV Licensing website
    you wouldn’t need one to use BBC iPlayer to catch up on an episode of a programme you missed, for example.

    We all evolve - get on with it
  • Dr.Shoe wrote: »
    Here's a problem.

    If you have any equipment whatsoever that is designed or adapted to recieve a live broadcast then you DO need a TV licence. This does include an internet connection. having a HDTV or even a monitor that can take a broadcast feed will require a TV licence. Even if you can prove that the TV has been rendered incapable of recieving a signal you need a licence.

    There are no loopholes, and I have 1000 reasons to say that as that was the size of my fine.

    I thought I'd just watch telly on my PC to get away without a licence but they can check ISP records easier than they can park a detector van outside your house. Even watching something that is not live on Iplayer will need a licence. Even watching DVDs a friend has recorded for you will, unless watched on a portable DVD player, will require a licence. There is no way round it and if caught you will be taken to court. BTW, using the portable DVD player angle will land you with an unlimited fine and up to 10 years in jail for piracy.
    if you dontknow something. just stay back.
    dont give false messages.
  • Swan_2
    Swan_2 Posts: 7,060 Forumite
    edited 10 February 2010 at 10:46AM
    Dr.Shoe wrote: »
    Here's a problem.

    If you have any equipment whatsoever that is designed or adapted to recieve a live broadcast then you DO need a TV licence. This does include an internet connection. having a HDTV or even a monitor that can take a broadcast feed will require a TV licence. Even if you can prove that the TV has been rendered incapable of recieving a signal you need a licence.

    There are no loopholes, and I have 1000 reasons to say that as that was the size of my fine.

    I thought I'd just watch telly on my PC to get away without a licence but they can check ISP records easier than they can park a detector van outside your house. Even watching something that is not live on Iplayer will need a licence. Even watching DVDs a friend has recorded for you will, unless watched on a portable DVD player, will require a licence. There is no way round it and if caught you will be taken to court. BTW, using the portable DVD player angle will land you with an unlimited fine and up to 10 years in jail for piracy.
    whatever happened to you, & even if it is true that you were fined, the parts I've picked out in bold are absolutely wrong, & I'd like to 'third' what triggerhappy & dkerrd said*

    you do not need a licence to merely own receiving equipment of any kind, it's what you do with it that matters


    EDIT ... *& buddy143, cross-posted
  • Eric_Pisch
    Eric_Pisch Posts: 8,720 Forumite
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    Swan wrote: »
    whatever happened to you, & even if it is true that you were fined, the parts I've picked out in bold are absolutely wrong, & I'd like to 'third' what triggerhappy & dkerrd said*

    you do not need a licence to merely own receiving equipment of any kind, it's what you do with it that matters


    EDIT ... *& buddy143, cross-posted

    you used to but the rules way changed a few years back which is what catches some people out
  • Swan_2
    Swan_2 Posts: 7,060 Forumite
    Eric_Pisch wrote: »
    you used to but the rules way changed a few years back which is what catches some people out
    that makes sense
    the rules have been the same since I had a licence-free period 6-7 years ago & investigated the legality of still using my telly for DVDs & gaming, so those are all I've ever known

    the name should have been changed at the same time, Television Licence is very misleading, it was appropriate in the days when you couldn't do anything else with your telly other than watch broadcasts, but certainly isn't so nowadays

    but I guess it suits the BBC to have people buying licences even if they don't need them
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