Money Moral Dilemma: Would you replace the shoes?

maddigunn

I consider myself afair person but to be honest I don't think I would.An accident is just that - an accident and if the shoe were on the other foot so to speak, I would not even think of asking the person who had stepped on my foot to buy me a new pair of shoes. I would apologise profusely of couse but would politely decline the request.

lollol

tell us what happened please

Gavin83

Im finding it hard to establish what the woman was doing. Was she already on the train or was she rushing on too? If she was rushing on too, then it's one of them things. If she was already on it, he rushed on and trod on her foot, it's entirely his fault and he should replace her shoes. To say otherwise just shows how much people are willing to pass on blame, he shouldn't be jumping on a busy train when the doors are about to close.

If someone did that to me I wouldn't let them leave until I was satisfied they were willing to help me or compensate me.

jackyh137

lets get this into perspective. its a shoe and 'you know what' happens. apologise, make a token gesture of an offer towards another pair, £20 is ok no more.if they were a dear pair then she obviously doesnt need it if she can afford to wear expensive shoes to work and not keep in handbag till she gets to work. lets face it some people get up on a morning to find their car has disappeared off the drive overnight or 'written off' while parked on the road.now thats 'bad news'

aloiseb

I'm sorry if I was over-cynical about attitudes and manners on the London Underground. I'm sure lots of you commuting into the city every day are lovely, polite people and I never meant to insult any of you.

I have had a few years experience of commuting in London, and had some bad experiences with very unpleasant people on the tube, hence my comments. The few nasty people probably drag the rest down in the manners scale. Which is only natural considering overcrowding, airlessness, travellers with massive suitcases, buskers and everything else................:eek::eek::eek:
(oh, thank goodness I live in the sticks now, and can cycle to work in whatever shoes I like....)

anyfreebies

Everyone's assuming the train they were on is reguarly overcrowded. Maybe it isn't and on the day of the incident the previous train was cancelled.

On one day on a tram in Sheffield I was standing and when the tram went round a sharp corner my elbow hit a seated passenger in the face - there was nothing I could have done to prevent it. The seated passenger looked annoyed but I apologised and he didn't say or do anything.

savingqueen

anyfreebies wrote: »

Everyone's assuming the train they were on is reguarly overcrowded. Maybe it isn't and on the day of the incident the previous train was cancelled.

On one day on a tram in Sheffield I was standing and when the tram went round a sharp corner my elbow hit a seated passenger in the face - there was nothing I could have done to prevent it. The seated passenger looked annoyed but I apologised and he didn't say or do anything.

Nothign to do with shoes but can't helping adding to above story.... I was once standing on a bus and it swung sharply round a corner. I lost my balance and fell into a man's lap. It was really hard gettign back on my feet straight away with the bus lurching and it being crowded so I had to remain seated in this guy's lap for a minute or so. I thought it was funny although I was embarrassed and apologised profusely. The man was livid. :mad: I was young and slim at the time and if it had been the other way round, i would have seen the funny side and maybe even enjoyed it a little!!

Back to shoes.... I would have apologised and tried to help. Feel the woman should be wearing more sensible shoes for rush hour (I used to when I used the tube and was young and trendy at the time so no excuses). if shoe couldn't be retrieved i would have probably offered her some money towards a new pair, say about a tenner. if she is wearing expensive shoes then lucky her, I couldn't afford to give her lots of money but would want to do something to make things right as I'm a decent person and prefer to part with cash then feel guilty for ages. if it happenned to me I wouldn't expect someone to pay for new shoes unless they were acting really unreasonably to cause the accident. if someone offered me the money though, I would gratefully accept it! Depends on their finances, if they were destitute (but how would you really know), I would refuse any cash offers.

JayD

I can't say that I have ever found the London Underground system to be civilised! Crowded, dirty, hot, often smelly - and sometimes (usually at less busy times) having drunk, abusive or just plain scarey people on it.

However, I digress:
Pay for new shoes? Most certainly!
I would apologise and definitely offer to contribute to a new pair of shoes.

However, I would make my own assessment of their value and then add something on top for the trouble replacing. That would determine my ceiling offer.

Of course, it is hard to calculate the compensation element when considering completing a journey in London with only one foot protected by footwear (the thought of that alone makes me shudder). Or the inconvenience of having to replace the shoes at all.

Did this happen in the evening when shops would be shut and she would have to go all the way home like that?
Or in the morning, on her way to work, when she would need to use up a valuable lunch break replacing them?
Or was she a daytime shopper on her way to buy clothing etc anyway?

All these of things have relevance to how inconvenienced this lady would be and should be accounted for - regardless of the cost of replacing the shoes.

reluctantworkingmum

I don,t understand why they cant just ask station staff to retrieve it!

anyfreebies

JayD wrote: »

Pay for new shoes? Most certainly!
I would apologise and definitely offer to contribute to a new pair of shoes.

However, I would make my own assessment of their value and then add something on top for the trouble replacing. That would determine my ceiling offer.

If your clothes are stolen from your house your insurance company would usually pay out for their used value, opposed to electrical items where you would usually get a new equivalent model (which would usually be less than what you paid in the first instance anyway as newer better models will have come out.)

It'd be hard to assess the value of her shoes, unless you work in a shoe shop. You only have to see the World of Wyndsor (or whatever they're called) adverts that show 'fashion boots' costing £10 that look like expensive Ugg boots at first glance.

Of course, it is hard to calculate the compensation element when considering completing a journey in London with only one foot protected by footwear (the thought of that alone makes me shudder). Or the inconvenience of having to replace the shoes at all.

Piggy back to the nearest shoe shop?