Plumbing advice please

heating-eng

Steve_xx wrote: »

When you connect copper pipe to a tap in your bathroom you would use a washer. They too can degrade with time like anything else. I think that the manufacturers of plastic products will have tested them to the endth degree.

I can't tell you how many joints I've looked at under the floorboards of my house and found that the flux hadn't been wiped off of them after the joints had been made. This is extremely corrosive and this is probably the biggest cause of leaks at joints.

it does not normally have the same type of washer as in plastic pipes ..i have been to jobs where they had plastic pipe and the pipe had just fallen out..

keystone

heating-eng wrote: »

it does not normally have the same type of washer as in plastic pipes ..i have been to jobs where they had plastic pipe and the pipe had just fallen out

Quite agree as have I. That's almost invariably down to installer incompetance in making the joint up rather than an inherent failing of the fitting.

Cheers

Steve_xx

heating-eng wrote: »

it does not normally have the same type of washer as in plastic pipes ..i have been to jobs where they had plastic pipe and the pipe had just fallen out

No, I know that the washers are made of a more rigid material than the rubber sealing rings used on plastic. It was just an illustration of the fact that not all copper joins are soldered. I can believe you when you say that pipes have just fallen out. They can be tricky to fit properly, ensuring that the sealing rings, grippers and pipe supports are all in place. But if they're fitted properly I feel pretty happy that they are decent enough to use.

heating-eng

keystone wrote: »

Quite agree as have I. That's almost invariably down to installer incompetance in making the joint up rather than an inherent failing of the fitting.

Cheers

the one that sticks in my mind is one that i went to and they hadnt fitted the inserts ..it had been like that for 10 years LOL ..

keystone

heating-eng wrote: »

you dont like it when people start playing the same game as you ,,do you ,,

Show me just one single instance where I have played any sort of game or where I have gone for anyone as an individual (other than responding to your absurd and provocative posts above) rather than challenge the content of the post concerned.

Cheers

heating-eng

Steve_xx wrote: »

No, I know that the washers are made of a more rigid material than the rubber sealing rings used on plastic. It was just an illustration of the fact that not all copper joins are soldered. I can believe you when you say that pipes have just fallen out. They can be tricky to fit properly, ensuring that the sealing rings, grippers and pipe supports are all in place. But if they're fitted properly I feel pretty happy that they are decent enough to use.

if you use the right cutters and install correctly i am sure its very good ..plastic pipe will always seem more DIY to me but i guess its what you get used to ..

heating-eng

keystone wrote: »

Show me just one single instance where I have played any sort of game or where I have gone for anyone as an individual (other than responding to your absurd and provocative posts above) rather than challenge the content of the post concerned.

Cheers

think you started a thread called heating eng or something like that ...

you think you know everything about everything like i have said in other posts ..jack of all trades

Steve_xx

heating-eng wrote: »

if you use the right cutters and install correctly i am sure its very good ..plastic pipe will always seem more DIY to me but i guess its what you get used to ..

Yes I think you're right. I like both systems, depending on where I want to use it. Aesthetically I prefer to use copper due to the fact that it looks neater and not bulky at joints. But for threading through joists I much prefer plastic, mainly because I can thread long lengths without having to join it. To me that's a great advantage.

keystone

heating-eng wrote: »

think you started a thread called heating eng or something like that ...

Oh dear. When someone writes @ it is the same as AT as in your email addy. It meets TO:. The thread was TO heating-eng not ABOUT heating-eng. It was to get YOUR ATTENTION. Is that too difficult for you to understand. I've already explained this once this evening to you.

you think you know everything about everything like i have said in other posts ..jack of all trades

Listen - I've asked you nicely to stop the ad hominems and concentrate on the content of posts. So for the last time please stop with these stupid childish provocative insults. Savvy?

Cheers