how much to give for lift?

molerat

Officer_Dibble wrote: »

Do you wish to clarify this and confirm where your information is from. I'm sure that hire or reward does not mention a profit being made.

Will this do ?

Motor Conference Undertaking
The receipt of contributions as part of a car-sharing arrangement for social or other similar purposes in respect of the carriage of passengers on a journey in a vehicle insured under a private car policy will not be regarded as constituting the carriage of passengers for hire or reward (or the use of the vehicle for hiring) provided that:

1. The vehicle is not constructed or adapted to carry more than eight passengers excluding the driver.
2. The passengers are not being carried in the course of a business carrying passengers
3. The total contributions received for the journey concerned do not involve an element of profit

Note. If in any doubt whether a car sharing scheme arrangement is covered by the terms of a private car policy the policyholders concerned should make an inquiry to their motor insurers. Motor Conference is the Standing Joint Committee of the Association of British Insurers and Lloyds Motor Underwriters' Association
(Association of British Insurers website, January 2009)

molerat

40p is considered by HMRC as cost of runnig a car so 40 x 42 = £16.8 / 2 = £8.40 so £10 would be fair. Tell her to stop being silly and take it

DaveMacD

Or you could just put the money on the seat as you get out...

Parker46

It seems she is just happy to give you a lift, but £5 a week would cover it easily. If she doesn't accept as previously suggested a good bottle of wine is also a good alternative.

Wig

Officer_Dibble wrote: »

Do you wish to clarify this and confirm where your information is from. I'm sure that hire or reward does not mention a profit being made.

It was something I heard announced in the news (many moons ago), by the government a change in a law IIRC, which was changed/announced to encourage people to "car share". I wouldn't have been able to give much more info than that in support of my view. At least not without searching for it. There is aswell that advert on TV the footballers "green army!" going to the match and car sharing and taking contributions towards petrol.

Thankfully molerat has been able to quote the ABI guidelines which are no doubt based on the legislation that was changed.

rictus123

Dont feel you have to. Let them be nice and take nothing.

dacouch

Wig wrote: »

It was something I heard announced in the news (many moons ago), by the government a change in a law IIRC, which was changed/announced to encourage people to "car share". I wouldn't have been able to give much more info than that in support of my view. At least not without searching for it. There is aswell that advert on TV the footballers "green army!" going to the match and car sharing and taking contributions towards petrol.

Thankfully molerat has been able to quote the ABI guidelines which are no doubt based on the legislation that was changed.

The "No element of profit" and your no classed as Hire and Reward has been adopted by the vast majority of Insurers for many many years. You pointed out the Aviva advert which is a good example, people have been contributing towards the drivers running costs for many many years. The government encouraged car sharing during the petrolm shortages of the seventies. The ABI conference was to clarify the situation and was also no doubt prompted by the government in a nod towards climate change.

Teachers and Civil Servants often take children to hospital or colleagues on training courses and to obtain the mileage allowance the council / government require them to have Class One Business Use not Hire and Reward because they are in effect refunding the running costs with the mileage allowance but not a profit

SUESMITH_2

nice bunch of flowers, choccies, wine

i never askor expect money when i give lifts but a little treat is always nice.

alwaysonthego_2

I used to give a lift to a student on my course to uni, about three times a week, it was a 40 mile round trip and she never offered to pay me anything towards the petrol or offer to buy me a coffee. I was saving her £30 a week on bus fares, so in the end I got fed up with being taken for granted and told her that I would not be giving her anymore free lifts.

If she won't take any money, buy her lunch or a coffee!

Lum

I'm assuming the OP doesn't have a car and thus you can't do this as a proper car sharing thing.

Offer to pay for her petrol once in a while, or do you have a skill that she doesn't and can return the favour in kind, like maybe fix her computer or something. That's the best way to deal with this sort of situation and avoids the various implications that come with taking payment (technically she'd have to declare it as an income to the tax man, though no-one does)

On a related note, are you senior to her in any way? or her boss? That too could make things awkward.