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Drivers leaving more than one ‘pay-and-display’ ticket in their car windows face Fine
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Drivers leaving more than one ‘pay-and-display’ ticket in their car windows face being fined.
Council traffic wardens are exploiting a loophole to penalise the motorists who have paid but who have forgotten to remove a previous stub from their dashboard or window.
Under the rules, if a warden 'civil enforcement officer' can see more than one ticket, he or she is entitled to penalise the motorist with a penalty.
'Loophole': Council traffic wardens are issuing fines to motorists who fail to remove previous pay-and-display tickets from their dashboards or windows
Critics accused 'greedy' council chiefs of seizing on 'pernicious' technicalities to punish drivers unfairly, in spite of ministers’ pledges that town halls should not use parking powers to raise cash.
Currently, some 265 councils have powers - which were handed over from the police - to enforce parking fines and keep the proceeds.
For example, the City of London Corporation's website says that it will fine motorists for displaying more than one 'pay and display' voucher.
It notes: ‘Perhaps other outdated parking tickets were also visible through your windscreen. It is a requirement that only a single ticket is displayed.
‘If more than one ticket is visible, the civil enforcement officer will issue a penalty charge notice and it is unlikely that we will withdraw it.’
Parking expert Barrie Segal, who runs the AppealNow website, condemned the latest example of councils using their powers to fleece motorists.
'This type of enforcement is pernicious. No traffic has been blocked or delayed and no pedestrian has been endangered and yet the council will issue a parking ticket,’ he said.
Outrage: Critics hit out at the penalties, calling councils 'greedy'
‘It is this type of enforcement which convinces motorists that it is not about traffic congestion, traffic flow or safety but just old-fashioned greed to line the council's coffers.’
Most motorists simply forget to remove old pay and display tickets, he noted.
Last year councils raised £328million in parking fines - three times the amount collected from speeding motorists by speed camera partnerships.
Motorists have also been fined when their pay-and-display ticket has fallen off the windscreen or dashboard.
Such fines are routinely upheld by appeal adjudicators, even if the driver produces the voucher afterwards.
The AA criticised the councils' interpretation of the rules, with a spokesman noting: 'It is one thing if somebody is being clever and plastering their windscreen with old pay and display tickets, it is rather different when somebody was in a hurry and forgot to remove an old voucher.
‘There has to be some sense of proportion.’
The Department for Transport said the rule was intended to make sure all motorists were treated fairly.
A spokesman said: 'Where parking spaces are in short supply, “no return” restrictions may be in place to stop people from monopolising a parking space for a long period of time.
‘It is specifically in these cases that rules apply to prevent people from adding a second ticket to extend the amount of time they can park beyond the maximum allowed.’
Motorists are also being issued with ‘ghost’ parking tickets as an increasing number of councils use CCTV to catch offenders.
The cameras take pictures of those who break parking rules and an automatically generated fine is sent through the post 14 days later.
Some 34 councils are employing the tactic which brings in an estimated £3million each year.
Parking fines range from £120 in the heart of London to £70 outside the capital, with a 50 per cent discount if paid within 14 days.
Cameras are used to enforce offences such as parking on yellow and red lines, in bus stops, on zig-zags or using a restricted parking bay.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246228/Drivers-leave-pay-display-ticket-car-windows-fined.html#ixzz0dkFI67OB
Council traffic wardens are exploiting a loophole to penalise the motorists who have paid but who have forgotten to remove a previous stub from their dashboard or window.
Under the rules, if a warden 'civil enforcement officer' can see more than one ticket, he or she is entitled to penalise the motorist with a penalty.
'Loophole': Council traffic wardens are issuing fines to motorists who fail to remove previous pay-and-display tickets from their dashboards or windowsCritics accused 'greedy' council chiefs of seizing on 'pernicious' technicalities to punish drivers unfairly, in spite of ministers’ pledges that town halls should not use parking powers to raise cash.
Currently, some 265 councils have powers - which were handed over from the police - to enforce parking fines and keep the proceeds.
For example, the City of London Corporation's website says that it will fine motorists for displaying more than one 'pay and display' voucher.
It notes: ‘Perhaps other outdated parking tickets were also visible through your windscreen. It is a requirement that only a single ticket is displayed.
‘If more than one ticket is visible, the civil enforcement officer will issue a penalty charge notice and it is unlikely that we will withdraw it.’
Parking expert Barrie Segal, who runs the AppealNow website, condemned the latest example of councils using their powers to fleece motorists.
'This type of enforcement is pernicious. No traffic has been blocked or delayed and no pedestrian has been endangered and yet the council will issue a parking ticket,’ he said.
Outrage: Critics hit out at the penalties, calling councils 'greedy'‘It is this type of enforcement which convinces motorists that it is not about traffic congestion, traffic flow or safety but just old-fashioned greed to line the council's coffers.’
Most motorists simply forget to remove old pay and display tickets, he noted.
Last year councils raised £328million in parking fines - three times the amount collected from speeding motorists by speed camera partnerships.
Motorists have also been fined when their pay-and-display ticket has fallen off the windscreen or dashboard.
Such fines are routinely upheld by appeal adjudicators, even if the driver produces the voucher afterwards.
The AA criticised the councils' interpretation of the rules, with a spokesman noting: 'It is one thing if somebody is being clever and plastering their windscreen with old pay and display tickets, it is rather different when somebody was in a hurry and forgot to remove an old voucher.
‘There has to be some sense of proportion.’
The Department for Transport said the rule was intended to make sure all motorists were treated fairly.
A spokesman said: 'Where parking spaces are in short supply, “no return” restrictions may be in place to stop people from monopolising a parking space for a long period of time.
‘It is specifically in these cases that rules apply to prevent people from adding a second ticket to extend the amount of time they can park beyond the maximum allowed.’
Motorists are also being issued with ‘ghost’ parking tickets as an increasing number of councils use CCTV to catch offenders.
The cameras take pictures of those who break parking rules and an automatically generated fine is sent through the post 14 days later.
Some 34 councils are employing the tactic which brings in an estimated £3million each year.
Parking fines range from £120 in the heart of London to £70 outside the capital, with a 50 per cent discount if paid within 14 days.
Cameras are used to enforce offences such as parking on yellow and red lines, in bus stops, on zig-zags or using a restricted parking bay.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246228/Drivers-leave-pay-display-ticket-car-windows-fined.html#ixzz0dkFI67OB
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Maybe this would have been better in the Parking Fines board.0
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oh...Read more: http://www.dailymail.co...
its from the Daily Mail. <sigh>
And Hothothot, there is nothing more to read there.
You have copied the whole article... in total disregard for the forum rule on Copyright.
Refresh your memory, read it here.0 -
oh...
its from the Daily Mail. <sigh>
And Hothothot, there is nothing more to read there.
You have copied the whole article... in total disregard for the forum rule on Copyright.
Refresh your memory, read it here.
it was on bbc breakfast news aswell.
a totally anal money making scam by some of our councils....work permit granted!0 -
I can understand it if they are consecutive, assuming time paid and no return for ?hours , but knowing councils they will do you for even having 2 tickets anyway.I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0
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peter_the_piper wrote: »I can understand it if they are consecutive, assuming time paid and no return for ?hours , but knowing councils they will do you for even having 2 tickets anyway.
the ticket wardens can check a ticket in the blink of an eye. its a petty rule, the parking has been paid for and ticket displayed....work permit granted!0 -
The Daily Mail who think it's ok to bite your children (but not smack them).0
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Yep, one or two but what's the betting that it's the rule because some pr1ck filled their dash with every ticket they ever bought?goldspanners wrote: »the ticket wardens can check a ticket in the blink of an eye. its a petty rule, the parking has been paid for and ticket displayed.0 -
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what rubbish, being fined having more than one pay and display ticket in the dash board, can we fine wardens for displaying more than one ticket on our cars.
Total dumb policyTrinidad - I have a number of needs. Don't shoot me down if i get something wrong!!0 -
Are we allowed to display a fake ticket in addition to the valid ticket featuring the text "wardens need to get a proper job".0
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