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  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    chez000 wrote: »
    Not quite.

    see 1996 housing act part 7

    Priority need for accommodation

    (1) The following have a priority need for accommodation—
    (a) a pregnant woman or a person with whom she resides or might reasonably be expected to reside;
    (b) a person with whom dependent children reside or might reasonably be expected to reside;
    (c) a person who is vulnerable as a result of old age, mental illness or handicap or physical disability or other special reason, or with whom such a person resides or might reasonably be expected to reside;

    Yes, there is an obligation for the council to prioritise a pregnant lady but there is no obligation for the council to provide 'social housing' which is what the previous poster mentioned - they may offer accommodation in a B&B temporarily, for example, according to this link.

    http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/families_and_relationships/housing_rights_during_pregnancy
  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    hannahO wrote: »

    What I suggest is that, even though this may sounds really haphazrd, on the day you get kicked out pack your bags and go to your local council in the morning and announce that you have been made homeless.

    I disagree with this strategy. The definition of homelessness is not having anywhere to go within the next 28 days - a council should work according to this definition. There is no need to actually be homeless on the street at the point of making the homelessness application with the council.
  • chez000
    chez000 Posts: 121 Forumite
    Jowo wrote: »
    Yes, there is an obligation for the council to prioritise a pregnant lady but there is no obligation for the council to provide 'social housing' which is what the previous poster mentioned - they may offer accommodation in a B&B temporarily, for example, according to this link.

    http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/families_and_relationships/housing_rights_during_pregnancy

    Unless the council find that the pregnant partner is homeless intentionally they have a duty to provide more than just temporary accomodaiton.

    If they find that the pregnant partner is not intentionally homeless (alongside eligible for asssitance, has a priority need, and has a local connection etc) they will owe the full housing duty - meaning that more permanent accommodation has to be offered.

    Whilst the council may try and get someone in this situation to accept private rented accommodation, there is no obligation to accept this and the partner should be offered suitable social housing by the council.
  • hannahO_2
    hannahO_2 Posts: 461 Forumite
    Jowo wrote: »
    I disagree with this strategy. The definition of homelessness is not having anywhere to go within the next 28 days - a council should work according to this definition. There is no need to actually be homeless on the street at the point of making the homelessness application with the council.
    It looks as though different council uses slightly different approach. This was what was adviced in my council.
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  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    hannahO wrote: »
    It looks as though different council uses slightly different approach. This was what was adviced in my council.

    Fair enough. The Shelter website indicates that the council should act if there is a risk of homelessness (i.e. security of accommodation) within 28 days so I'd hope they'd process the application at day 28 rather than day 0 when the tenants are on the street.
  • merlin68
    merlin68 Posts: 2,405 Forumite
    I think they'll find themselves out of luck as they have made themselves homeless, the council are really strict now. They cancelled the claim for housing benifit and moved out.
  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
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    merlin68 wrote: »
    I think they'll find themselves out of luck as they have made themselves homeless, the council are really strict now. They cancelled the claim for housing benifit and moved out.

    They moved out to another home. No one was to reasonably predict that it didnt work out.

    The OPs current home is With the parents IMV.

    The parents are making them homeless.

    The parents need to put in writing that OP can no longer occupy the property and the leaving date is XXX. Parents phone number needs to be included on this letter. Then the assessor will then make contact with MUm to check that the OP is telling the truth.

    At this point, the LA will probably offer some support in finding rented property in the private sector with a LL that will accept LHA.
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  • mumcoll
    mumcoll Posts: 393 Forumite
    Homeless people where I live would make a homeless presentation, the LA place them in B&B while they investigate the full situation.

    If found in priority need, full homeless duty is accepted. They are then placed in temporary accommodation (privately leased by the Council) until they reach the top of the waiting list when they are then issued with a tenancy with the relevant Housing Association.
  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    merlin68 wrote: »
    I think they'll find themselves out of luck as they have made themselves homeless, the council are really strict now. They cancelled the claim for housing benifit and moved out.

    From their original rented property, yes, but my reading of the post is that they moved into his mother's house and she is evicting them so your observation doesn't apply.
  • merlin68
    merlin68 Posts: 2,405 Forumite
    There still unlikely to get anywhere though, i know people still homeless with 4 kids and one on the way, the average wait round here is at least 4 years. they have only lived at his mother's a couple of weeks. The council do investigate other wise we could all do that.
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