Made redundant whilst off sick

iamana1ias

lasergirl123 wrote: »

My doctor's view was that any employer who makes someone redundant whilst off sick (particularly whilst off with depression/work stress) is, in his words, 'a complete b****rd' and he will do everything he can to help me. He has given me a 'sign off' sick note from the day after I was made redundant.

Good job he's a doctor and not an employment lawyer then! :eek:

So he's happy to lie for you and say that you were well enough to return to a post that was making you ill when you clearly weren't? The man isn't fit to practice medicine or anything else (IMO).

(I assume he writes sick notes for lots of "patients" that can't be bothered to work and would rather claim benefit too :rolleyes:)

iamana1ias

Uncertain wrote: »

Excellent....

A doctor's duty is to his patient. They are not fools and if it is obvious that the work situation is genuinely making the patient ill, then there is a lot they can do to help.

Unbelievable.

Yes, their duty is to their patient, but they shouldn't be falsifying legal documents to allow people to claim what they are not entitled to :eek:

Uncertain

iamana1ias wrote: »

Unbelievable.

Yes, their duty is to their patient, but they shouldn't be falsifying legal documents to allow people to claim what they are not entitled to :eek:

If you READ this thread then how is he falsifying anything?

While he considered the patient ill he issued certificates ADVISING her not to work. In most cases you do not need a certificate to return to work (common misconception). If the patient felt well enough to return to work on XX that is her right.

jdturk

Uncertain wrote: »

If you READ this thread then how is he falsifying anything?

While he considered the patient ill he issued certificates ADVISING her not to work. In most cases you do not need a certificate to return to work (common misconception). If the patient felt well enough to return to work on XX that is her right.

It really depends on the job and the illness, if a lorry driver has a heart attack and is signed of for 3 months then its appropriate for the company to ask for a fit to work note so they are covered just in case the person crashes soon after coming back. If they don't get this it could look like negligance

Uncertain

jdturk wrote: »

It really depends on the job and the illness, if a lorry driver has a heart attack and is signed of for 3 months then its appropriate for the company to ask for a fit to work note so they are covered just in case the person crashes soon after coming back. If they don't get this it could look like negligance

True...

However in that type of situation it would be normal for the company to pay for a private medical.

Normally a GP only quotes a return date (as opposed to advice to refrain for X weeks) in the case of a contagious illness.

The company could have a rule saying for example "you must not come to work if a doctor has advised you to refrain" but that would be very hard to police. The doctor's advice to the patient is confidential and the patient need only pass the certificate on if he wants to stay off work and claim SSP.

The standard "sick note" says "For SSP purposes only". However, as the normal method of getting SSP is to give the certificate to your employers it tends to double for company sick pay and other purposes as well.

lasergirl123

iamana1ias wrote: »

Unbelievable.

Yes, their duty is to their patient, but they shouldn't be falsifying legal documents to allow people to claim what they are not entitled to :eek:

He isn't falsifying anything. I told him the date I felt better and that's the date he put on the certificate. The MED3 is a document but it is not a legal document.