HELP? how do i hard wire my new Samsung oven?

adrian_bond

Hi everyone,

we recently bought a new oven (built in type) and gas hob (samsung BF641? gas hob) from B and Q in the sale and will be trying to wire it in probably this weekend. however, we opened the oven box and there is no plug and cable there! ive had a quick look online and it says that it needs to be hard wired!

there was no mention of this before we bought the oven, and im wondering what we have to do to get it fitted! my old oven has a 13 amp cable and typical plug as does the hob and we thought it would be a direct replacement for both with our new stuff. im thinking the gas hob will be the same (its still in the box) so thats not a problem as far as im aware. i understand that we have to get a corgi gas registered (or whatever the new name is "gas safe"?) guy in to fit the hob fittings, but can we fit the oven ourselves?

the model number is SAMSUNG BF641FST

http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/home-appliances/oven/electric-oven/BF641FST/XEU/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec&fullspec=F

Can anyone help? ideally i would like to do it myself as this is the most money saving way:money:, but if its a bit of a proffesionals job then i need to know so i can get someone to help!

if anyone can give me any advise i would be well chuffed! thanks everyone

adrian :beer:

ormus

normally electric ovens can be soft wired, but electric hobs need to be hard wired.

gas hobs only need a 13 amp plug for the ignition system.

adrian_bond

sorry to be thick, but does soft wired mean plugged in using a typical 13a plug? like i said our old oven and hob were both of the same double plug socket using 13amp plugs. we were hoping it would eb a direct replacement for both!

adrian_bond

hi,

yeah we have the big red switch with cooker on it! lol. a cable then runs from this control switch to a double plug socket that powers the current gas hob and electric oven. a further spur is then taken from this to power the overhead exrtractor. is this okay?

CKdesigner

Hi

Your old oven was less than 3kW so could have been plugged in. Most single ovens these days are more powerful and over 3kW so therefore need to be 'Hard wired' which means they need their own dedicated supply of 16 amps. Which probably means putting in a new cable from ther consumer unit.

You will need an electrician in to advise and do the work whatever the power requirements.

CK

keith969

Actually reading the manual, it says

"If the appliance is not connected to the mains with a plug,
a multi-pole isolator switch (with at least 3 mm contact
spacing) must be provided in order to satisfy safety
regulations. The power cable (H05 RR-F or H05 VV-F, min.
1.5 m, 1.5 ~ 2.5 mm²) must be of sufficient length to be
connected to the oven, even if the oven stands on the floor
in front of its built-in cabinet."

But then it also says max consumption is 3.4kW, which appears to contradict the use of a plug...

rachbc

ok even I know that a cooker needs its own isolater switch and circuit breaker on the consumer unit and I wouldn't attempt to wire one in. If you know less than me I suggest you get a leccy in....

adrian_bond

hi guys,

thanks for the replies so far. i have rung a recommended electrician who is coming on saturday to take a look. in the meantime, i have labeled the circuit on my circuit box / fuse thingy (with lots of switches on it!) for the corrseponding switch which controlls the oven power only.

the cable leading to the "big red switch" is a "BASEC DONCASTER CABLES ENGLAND BASEC 300/500V 6242Y 6.0" grey cable. the same cable then is wired from the back of the oevn switch (the big red switch) down to the double socket which currently powers the oven and hob. we have then fitted a spur from this to power the extractor.

ive been told by a coulple of poeple that i need a coocker control unit (CCU) which will then be hard wired into the oven and hob when theyt are fitted. is it still possible to spur of this hard wired unit to power the extractor of am i going to have to take the powerr from somewhere else?

please keep your knowledge coming guys, its really helping!

Mankysteve

If you need to ask these question then you should'nt be doing any work yourself. Also if you cable to your fan extractor isn't fused then that's also very wrong. Any work in a kitchen I do now believe that any electrical work carried out in kitchen should be carried out by qualified person.

keystone

Mankysteve wrote: »

If you need to ask these question then you should'nt be doing any work yourself. Also if you cable to your fan extractor isn't fused then that's also very wrong. Any work in a kitchen I do now believe that any electrical work carried out in kitchen should be carried out by qualified person.

Any work in a Part P location can be carried out yourself ONLY if its a like for like replacement. This does NOT qualify and so requires a registered domestic installer with a Part P qualification. The extractor should NOT be on this circuit either. The cooker requires a dedicated protected circuit from the CU.

Whilst the electrician is there you should ask him to have a look at ALL the electrics in this kitchen. It sounds as though you are doing it all yourself. Without the proper 17th Edn Certificates and notification to the BCO you'll be in the clarts when you come to sell let alone the possibility of having a dangerous installation whilst you live there.

HTH

Cheers