Why am I being penalized?

daska

ChishyChoshy wrote: »

Those jammy income related sods they get everything don't they?

Unless they have too much in savings then their benefit goes down.
Or if their partner works and that's deducted from their benefit.

Still they get £25 when it's cold! Swines

Yes, apparently they get what they need. But we get less despite having contributed, used all our savings and having exactly the same need.

shazza71_2

daska, have you tried contacting the BBC about this, if i knew how to i would, and if anyone can tell me how to i will, and maybe.. just maybe if more of us contact them they may just listen and make something of it, and this week could be good as theres that programme on Tuesday called Famous,Rich and Jobless on, so they may just take notice..

sharon

ChishyChoshy

I'm sure it'll be the lead story on the news "people on low incomes who haven't worked for three years get £25 more than people who did when it's cold".

Try moaning to the unfortunate people on ESA who get nothing because their partner works just a little over the income threshold.

sunnyone

ChishyChoshy wrote: »

I'm sure it'll be the lead story on the news "people on low incomes who haven't worked for three years get £25 more than people who did when it's cold".

Try moaning to the unfortunate people on ESA who get nothing because their partner works just a little over the income threshold.

Try moaning to those who have always worked for a living and get nothing else but contributions based benefits yet have to pay every expence themselves rather than those who havnet paid in but but take a huge wedge out.

National insurance is the only insurance scheme on the planet that you can take from even if you have never paid in.

Indie_Kid

sunnyone wrote: »

National insurance is the only insurance scheme on the planet that you can take from even if you have never paid in.

But you can't take anything out if you haven't paid anything in. Everything is means-tested if that's the case.

daska

sh1305 wrote: »

But you can't take anything out if you haven't paid anything in. Everything is means-tested if that's the case.

Fundamental misunderstanding. NI isn't a saving scheme. The benefits (including pensions) are paid for by the people who pay NI, the money literally goes in and comes out, there is no 'pot'. So yes, you can get money out without putting money in, means tested or otherwise.

daska

ChishyChoshy wrote: »

I'm sure it'll be the lead story on the news "people on low incomes who haven't worked for three years get £25 more than people who did when it's cold".

Try moaning to the unfortunate people on ESA who get nothing because their partner works just a little over the income threshold.

People whose partners earn over the threshold already have as much as they are judged to 'need' as a couple.

The argument really is that, if on ESA (IR) you're only getting as much as you need, how is it that a person in exactly the same financial situation but on ESA (C) needs less?

shazza71_2

ChishyChoshy wrote: »

I'm sure it'll be the lead story on the news "people on low incomes who haven't worked for three years get £25 more than people who did when it's cold".

Try moaning to the unfortunate people on ESA who get nothing because their partner works just a little over the income threshold.

That is just ignorance, read the full post before shooting your opinions, its not just £25 a week, its eye tests, prescriptions, free school meals and a lot more than i know about.
my husband has worked all his life, i have never once claimed anything for myself. My husband has worked to keep us, i`ve had very good reasons to claim things for myself BUT i have not, so i dont know what its like to claim ESA whilst my husband was working..

ChishyChoshy

As mentioned you can get help/exemption with eye tests/prescriptions/dental by filling in an NHS form, school meals can also be gained via child tax credits.

Cold weather £25 is one of the few ones that can't be gotten via other means.

You then go on to say you don't even know about the benefit so why voice your own opinion and call someone ignorant in that case? It's rather hypocritical

daska

ChishyChoshy wrote: »

As mentioned you can get help/exemption with eye tests/prescriptions/dental by filling in an NHS form, school meals can also be gained via child tax credits.

Cold weather £25 is one of the few ones that can't be gotten via other means.

You then go on to say you don't even know about the benefit so why voice your own opinion and call someone ignorant in that case? It's rather hypocritical

Admittedly £25 isn't much, but 4 periods of cold weather and you're talking £100. Plus access to grants rather than loans. Plus access to reduced prices that are based on benefit names rather than on actual income e.g. leisure services.

If someone on ESA (IR) is only getting what they need, why does someone on ESA (C) need less? And if someone on ESA (C) is only getting what they need, why does someone on ESA (IR) get given more?