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Philips Bailiffs/Lowell Financial??

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  • I have a prove it letter ready to go tomorrow morning after receiving two demands from Philips for distress warrants from North West London.

    I'll be sending it Special Delivery and advise others to do no less.

    If any others have already sent prove it letters would they help us new to Philips by telling us the outcome of your protests?

    ANY advise on how to quickly deal with these demands is greatly appreciated.

    I will continue to post the outcome of my 'day off work' tomorrow, which will be a day on the phone to absolutely anyone I can think of who might listen!

    Thanks and good luck.
  • webeweb
    webeweb Posts: 7 Forumite
    I will do the same, I think it best not to provide any contact details except the ref number on their letter?. Also send it special delivery.
    I am hoping for a friend who writes for the money page of Daily Express to get involved.
  • webeweb
    webeweb Posts: 7 Forumite
    THIS WAS 2009

    Philips Collection Services is alleged to have been using unlicensed copies of Microsoft and Adobe software on approximately 100 PCs. The company failed to respond to a software audit request, initially sent by the BSA in June 2007, and this lack of co-operation forced BSA to pursue the case through the courts.

    Philips Collection Services now faces a court hearing and, should BSA’s application be successful, will be ordered to hand over the information requested by BSA, as well as face settlement costs.

  • hallowitch
    hallowitch Posts: 1,286 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    these are fines Philip's are trying to collect some could be very old fines however a magistrate court distress warrant has a life span of 180 days and Philip's should provide you with the name of the court that issued the warrant the date of the warrant and the court reference number
    operation crack down
    http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&xhr=t&q=Operation+Crackdown+magastrate+court+fines&cp=42&pf=p&sclient=psy&rlz=1W1GPEA_en-GB&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=Operation+Crackdown+magastrate+court+fines&pbx=1&fp=1&cad=b
    I am not an expert I am self taught i have no legal training any information I post is based on my own personal experience and information gained from other web sites


    If you are in any doubt please seek legal/expert advice help
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    webeweb wrote: »
    THIS WAS 2009

    Philips Collection Services is alleged to have been using unlicensed copies of Microsoft and Adobe software on approximately 100 PCs. The company failed to respond to a software audit request, initially sent by the BSA in June 2007, and this lack of co-operation forced BSA to pursue the case through the courts.

    Philips Collection Services now faces a court hearing and, should BSA’s application be successful, will be ordered to hand over the information requested by BSA, as well as face settlement costs.


    I remember that when it came out. Nice to know that precisely nothing seems to have been done about Philips.
  • shanni10
    shanni10 Posts: 6 Forumite
    Hi I too recently received a letter from Philips with no mention of who the company is that I owe as I truly do not know of this debt. When I rang them last week I was told they would send me the proof. After receiving nothing, I rang them again only to be told by "Keith", that they dont send out information in regards to the debt.

    I was told it was a court fine which was issued in April 2007, and I had to contact South East and Central London Magistrates Court and was given a reference number. I did a search for this court but it doesnt exist on the HMRC Court listing website.

    The fine was originally £560 a week ago and on their second letter the amount increased to £635. When I questioned this, "Keith" stated it was their charges on top of the fine, which is bizarre considering they would have added this on in their first letter.

    I have a local number for them - 01325 387400, for those who dont who wish to call their 0844 number, it goes to the reception.

    I will not however be making any further calls and instead will be sending out the prove it letter.

    Shanni
  • webeweb
    webeweb Posts: 7 Forumite
    Ii have just written my letter of proof and I also spoke to west london magistrates who advised filling in a statutory declaration form.
  • shanni10
    shanni10 Posts: 6 Forumite
    This is the letter I have written using the template on this site. I have added an extra line which states the Admin Act in regards to harassment

    Letter:

    1 Street Name


    Town Name
    County Name
    Postcode


    Philips Specialist Bailiff & Debt Recovery Agents
    PO Box 231
    Darlington
    DL1 9GG March 7, 2011

    Dear Sir/Madam

    Ref: 12346789, Security Code 181

    You have contacted myself regarding the account with the above reference number, which you claim is owed by me.

    I would point out that I have no knowledge of any such debt being owed to South East London and have tried locating this court under the HM Courts website to no avail.
    I am familiar with the ‘Office of Fair Trading Debt Collection Guidance’ which states that it is unfair to send demands for payment to an individual when it is uncertain that they are the debtor in question.

    I would also point out that the OFT say under the Guidance that it is unfair to pursue third parties for payment when they are not liable. In not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt you are using deceptive/and or unfair methods.
    Furthermore, ignoring and/or disregarding claims that debts have been settled or are disputed and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment amounts to physical/psychological harassment. I will be forced to contact the police and show your letters and make a complaint under Section 40(1)(c) of the Administration of Justice Act 1940. It is a criminal offence.

    I would ask that no further contact be made concerning the above accounts unless you can provide evidence as to my liability for the debt in question.

    I await your written confirmation that this matter is now closed. Otherwise I will have no option but to make a complaint to the trading standards department and consider informing the OFT of your actions.
    I look forward to your reply.

    Yours faithfully




    Mr AN Other
  • webeweb
    webeweb Posts: 7 Forumite
    the advise i have just had from a legal advisor at west london magistrates court is definately to fill in a statutory declaration form.
  • shanni10
    shanni10 Posts: 6 Forumite
    Its all well and good filling in a Statutory Declaration form if you KNOW the Penalty Charge no, Vehicle Reg and if you actually remember the contravention.

    In my case, I dont have any of this information, because I dont recall any contravention occuring during the year of the supposed date Philips have stated, nor do I have a PCN I can refer back to.

    Secondly there is no South East & Central London Magistrates or Crown Court on the HM Courts website. It doesnt exist, unless it has a different name.

    I sent my letter challenging Philips, but it looks like they have intellectually challenged people working there. I asked them for proof of the debt (as per the template) and all they sent back to me was a letter with no details whatsoever of the court reference, balance, liability order date, offence date, period etc. They have simply listed the headers but have left the details BLANK!

    If anyone has had the same reply with no details provided, I suggest you send them a letter saying that as they havent provided any proof, they shouldnt be sending you no more letters and threaten them with harassment and complaining to the police (as per my original letter) and say you will complain to the OFT.
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