MONEY MORAL DILEMMA: Should Monica and Chandler not pay their wedding planner?

lisababe

The Planner has failed on more than one thing so i'd say thats un acceptable, and therefore would not pay. Your paid to do a job properly and its her profession so if she hasn't met expectations then tough, how could she expect payment especially ruining 2 peoples most important day of their lives! Maybe pay her for the things she got right but not what she failed to provide.
x lisa babe x

dave2

A job is not a job if it's a contract for services (self employed fee) rather than a contract of service (employee). But it's a technical argument that depends on the contract - did the wedding planner or the couple arrange the flowers etc?

If Monica and Chandler contracted her to arrange the flowers, cake and food then they should not pay for her failure to deliver this portion of the contract. They will still have to pay her for requirements completed successfully.

It's not possible to state the "moral position", the position is the same as the contractual one: it depends on the contract, which is what determined the planner's fee. She should not be paid when she has not performed what she was contracted to do, but should be paid for what she has done. She can't be punished for things she was not contracted for.

awehla

Aww Monica and Chandler from Friends, lol. Seriously I have no idea about this as wedding planners are not something in my social sphere. If it was a builder or something you wouldn't pay. Guess if she went against their contract they shouldn't pay her or pay her less or something. If she was any good she would be mortified at what happened and offer a discount anyway.

DavidMorgan_2

Whatever the contractual situation the planner deserves something.
Presumably some of it went OK.
So a portion should be paid.
We hired a barn dance band for our daughter's big birthday celebration - they turned up with equipment which did not work for the first third of the evening! We paid two-thirds, they did not like it but they could not argue!

nymph_2

:eek::eek::eek:£800:eek::eek::eek:
just for flowers, cake and food? Yikes!!!
£250 paid for brides maids dresses and brides dress, handmade myself (my dress had to fit a 7.5 mths pregnant waistline!) +shoes bought in sale
£200 church wedding, bells flowers and organist provided
£200 matching pair of wedding rings
£85 mens suit, tie and shoes
£80 for disco lights etc
£40 printed wedding invitations embellished by hand
£15 hire of hall + ballons and ribbons to decorate

FREE!!!
3 tier cake and a full buffet spread made by mother in law
posh jag owned owned & cheauffered by a friend as wedding car
one honeymoon night in fourposter suite of a local hotel as a wedding gift from work colleagues
wedding pictures donated by virtually all relatives who came as wedding gifts, including one individual who practically did a photo story of our day.

Total £870
That was 8 years 7 months ago Money can't buy happiness, and it can't buy love.

My wedding day will always be the most special day of my life. I wasn't about to put that in anyone elses hands, and if that's the sort of price they charge, I'm very glad we didn't.
IF we had, we certainly would NOT be paying them if they didn't deliver exactly what we specified in the contract. No dilemma at all there!

nsabournemouth

A customer of mine got married Dec 08 and the reception wss at his house.

He spent about £70k on it and had things like fake snow from the firm that does the Harry Potter films etc etc.

All very very nice and not one bit of tack anywhere.

I look after his house and house keepers etc and he asked me to look after the days events. We got together and i said i will do it but on the basis that if anything or anyone doesnt turn up or turns up wrong then it is down to him to sort it out with the firm, not me. I will make sure things are out in the right place and that the tables are laid right, snow is put in the right place etc etc.

All in all i charged him £500 as it was New Years Eve and i was there from 7am through to 8pm

oldnewhand

As others have said it rather depends on the contract between the planner and the couple as to who's to blame. I wonder who will be to blame for the breakdown of the marriage?
Me? I made my dress and cake and with my husband made our marriage work; our ruby (40th) aniversary this summer. I made my daughter's cake, a friend iced it more professionally, I did the catering: venue our home and garden, sister in law's white BMW and a length of white ribbon for wedding car. She's enjoyed over 17 years of marriage. It's people, love. commitment, understanding that makes marriages not glitzy clothes, decorations and venues that bankrupt you before you start out. They just help provide a hopefully happy memory and help you show off.

lady-h

:smileyhea
I cannot for the life of me understand why any couple would pay £800 of their hard earned cash to somebody else to plan what should be their happiest day. If you are really in love and plan to spend the rest of your life with each other then half the fun is making the plans for your special day together and then enjoying the big day no matter what happens. After all it's not the glitz that means anything - it is the love and commitment that you have for each other that counts.

dalizzyclarke

What were the terms of the contract? indeed was there a contract? breach of contract small claims court............... did they have insurance cover?

Better too go to Gretna Green. post the name of the wedding planner was this their first job as a wedding planner? ooops

Sarah_Soprano

As a very successful wedding planner, I would be appalled if my suppliers didn't provide what I had asked them to provide. I wouldn't expect to be paid my full fee and I would be claiming it back from the suppliers who have let them down.
It would be very unlucky for a good Wedding Planner to have so many duff suppliers! Choose your suppliers wisely! It's a very important day and you will always remember everything that went wrong and focus on that, so try to get the best from the outset.