DVLA - Failure to Notify Fine!!!!

JellyIcecream

p00hsticks wrote: »

Because who else can ?

Suppose your original letter really DID get lost in the post ? Then the DVLA have absolutely no way of knowing that you sent them anything. So they can't check anything.

All they can do is send an acknowledgement (at their expense) when they HAVE received and processed something.

It has to be the person initiating the process who either confirms that process is complete or, if not, queries it.

Thanks for this point. I do get it (now).
I guess I just find it hard to understand how, when both the seller and the buyer notify DVLA the car has changed hands, they have the balls to fine you if they dont receive one notification.

rev_henry

JellyIcecream wrote: »

Thanks for this point. I do get it (now).
I guess I just find it hard to understand how, when both the seller and the buyer notify DVLA the car has changed hands, they have the balls to fine you if they dont receive one notification.

Buyer doesn't normally need to notify or get involved in the process. Buyer just waits for the new V5 with his name on to come in the post. If it doesn't arrive then he'll have to get on to the DVLA etc.

DCFC79

OP ts optional to use recorded delivery when posting the v5 but surely if you want to cover yourself then its better to use recorded delivery

Paradigm

The thing that really gets me about this situation is that if the council or Police send you a PCN or NIP by post it is deemed served whether you receive it or not! They don't do proof of postage.

But the DVLA (well known for being bloody useless & getting worse) can say that they didn't receive it & put the onus on the poster to provide proof.

Mind you, with a nice fat fine for every V5 "not received" it's a tidy money earner for the Gov.

puddy

well this is exactly what annoys me.

i admit that we moved 7 months ago and i have not sent off my v5. i have changed my address with the licence people on the internet and await my new licence.

i dont want to send the bluddy thing off as am convinced that its my luck it will get lost in the post.

i also send nearly everything via recorded delivery now and am getting increasingly annoyed with the fact that unless we seem to do this now,, the chances of your post getting to where it should do, is low

i used to work in benefits. my memory is hazy but im sure that one of the appeal criteria for getting backdated benefit where a claimant had stated that they claimed and we lost their form, was that they HAD posted the form. they did not have to 'prove' they posted it. (this is housing benefits not dss),,, there was specific language, which obviously we hoped that they didnt know

it does seem rather unfair that if WE dont receive something, its still effective, if the dept doesnt receive, it doesnt exist

rev_henry

jenner I'm sure most of it doesn't genuinely get lost in the post. Most 'normal' letters sent to family and friends get there right? Its just the DVLA either through incompetence, negligence or downright malice can't be trusted to have received things. Best to always use recorded, which I do now for almost everything I send to businesses/organisations.

Wig

rev_henry wrote: »

Buyer doesn't normally need to notify or get involved in the process. Buyer just waits for the new V5 with his name on to come in the post. If it doesn't arrive then he'll have to get on to the DVLA etc.

But the OP has a good point, the buyer has the car, the buyer must have recieved a V5 in his name, so the DVLA know very well that the car has changed hands, by either the buyer chasing it up or recieving the sellers letter. Yet the DVLA STILL fines the seller!

Wig

JellyIcecream wrote: »

court? I havent got to court yet?!

But you were talking as though you were considering it. Had you gone to court, I bet we wouldn't hear from you again, like ALL the other threads on this subject both here MSE and on CA

its fine. i get it. no point asking for help/advice etc when others quite clearly think i dont deserve it.

Your trouble is you don't recognise helpful advice when you see it.

cheers u all.

cheers

JellyIcecream

Wig wrote: »

But you were talking as though you were considering it. Had you gone to court, I bet we wouldn't hear from you again, like ALL the other threads on this subject both here MSE and on CA

Your trouble is you don't recognise helpful advice when you see it.

cheers

I was 'talking' about disputing the fine and if DVLA did not agree, then it would have had to go court when they serve me a summons - sorry if i was unclear about that.

'my trouble' is that i don't consider comments along the line of 'it was ur fault so tough' comments to be 'helpful advice'

look. i started the thread to ask for advice on the situation/to see if someone else had similar experience. i also started the thread as i was fuming bout the injustice of the situation (as stated in previous post, i do have a point about DVLA taking chance to make money) and wanted to rant.
if people give me comments suggesting that as its my own fault i should pay up; they were not, at the time conceived to be 'helpful or friendly advice' by me - i therefore may have reacted rather bluntly with my posts for which i apologise.
regarding the orginal topic, it appears that the topic is 'dead'.
given my family circs at the moment i have decided to pay up and have one less thing to worry about.
therefore thanks to all for the 'lively debate'
cheers.