Do you auto get full uni grant if currently receive £30 EMA

rev_henry

percymoneysaver wrote: »

I'm sorry, Rev Henry, but I think this new revision is fair. Why on earth should you be guaranteed university funding in your third year based on your parents financial circumstances when you were in Year 11????? If your family circumstances haven't changed, then fine and well done to the government for helping children from low-income families access higher education, but to guarantee hardship funding no matter what happens to your family income? Is stupid and a waste of money.

(Personally, I also think the EMA guarantee should be scrapped, and was presumably only created to save on administration costs. How many other government income-related benefits do not take account of your current circumstances, and guarantee you free money no matter what for 3 years? Can you see that happening with Jobseeker's Allowance? "Ok, as you've lost your job this month we'll sign you up for JSA. Come back to reassess it in 2012.....")

I'd agree with you there, it was more the 'yes you'll get it, oh no wait now you won't' attitude the Government seems to have about it. DirectGov was going on about how wonderful it was when it hadn't even been made into law. And then of course it wasn't or whatever...

percymoneysaver

rev_henry wrote: »

I'd agree with you there, it was more the 'yes you'll get it, oh no wait now you won't' attitude the Government seems to have about it. DirectGov was going on about how wonderful it was when it hadn't even been made into law. And then of course it wasn't or whatever...

I expect they probably came up with the original idea before the recession started to really bite. And when it did, they realised it was easier to get rid of something that they hadn't started wasting money on yet. It's too much to hope that they realised how stupid an idea it was to begin with.

rev_henry

percymoneysaver wrote: »

I expect they probably came up with the original idea before the recession started to really bite. And when it did, they realised it was easier to get rid of something that they hadn't started wasting money on yet. It's too much to hope that they realised how stupid an idea it was to begin with.

Haha yes quite possibly.

MrsBartolozzi

Hi there,
There is mention of the guarantee here:


readingroom.lsc.gov.uk/lsc/.../yhr-emanoe200809-jul08.pdf


I would be interested to know the answer to this as our family circumstances have recently changed and DS1 is probably now eligible for EMA (guidance teacher at school thought so anyway). He is off to Uni in September (well, he has 3 unconditional offers so far and now has to choose where he is going - a great position to be in, lucky boy!) and the thought of funding his time there is beginning to look very difficult. We're in Scotland though, so the rules are most probably different.

Sorry I can't seem to get the link to work properly. Just copy and paste into google and this will take you to a PDF.

GlasweJen

Mrs Bartolozzi, your son will apply through SAAS, they do not have this automatic thingy. He'll get his tuition paid, a student loan and a young student bursary which combined total about £4,500 over the year if he moves away to uni or less if he stays at home. Once he gets his first award he'll be able to fill in a shorter form for the next years unless his parents are self employed.

surfsister

sarflee wrote: »

I have found this and it does appear to state that the student support guarantee has been revised:

http://www.bis.gov.uk/student-support-statement-010709

To help maintain this increase in participation overall we will continue to encourage those in receipt of the EMA to think about progression into higher education. In these difficult economic times, it is both fair and reasonable to expect that those students who see an improvement in their financial circumstances are assessed for student support, according to their need. We have therefore revised our plans for a guarantee of student support, and will offer students in receipt of EMA a clear quote of the student support they will receive if their circumstances are unchanged at the time they apply for higher education."

so yes the guarantee has gone, another broken promise from a broken governmnent.

thanks eage etes!
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percymoneysaver

surfsister wrote: »

so yes the guarantee has gone, another broken promise from a broken governmnent.

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I disagree. Finally a sensible statement from a government that makes up education policies as it goes along. To refer to my earlier post, don't you think it actually is, well, fair, that if you don't need it, you don't get it? Why should the government pay for better off students throughout university just because their parents may have one bad financial year while they were still taking GCSEs?

surfsister

also daughter just seen on the internet ema bonuses ending from 2011. I expect ema will end then also??

whacks

I never agreed with EMA in the first place, I did A-levels 13 years ago now(wow so old :P) and I had to hold down a part time job if I wanted some money for myself.

£30 a week for going to school...can I have mine backdated please!

rev_henry

surfsister wrote: »

also daughter just seen on the internet ema bonuses ending from 2011. I expect ema will end then also??

I reckon the Tories will scrap it, much better things to spend the money on...