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Do you auto get full uni grant if currently receive £30 EMA

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  • rev_henry
    rev_henry Posts: 4,965 Forumite
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    GlasweJen wrote: »
    Seriously are you clever enough to go to uni?
    Intelligence isn't linked to common sense I find. :D
    Debts can be enforced abroad because lots of companies these days are international so the English office gets onto the Australian office who send it out to the regional office you stay nearest and before you know it you're being hounded for student loan plus fees for not paying plus fees for making them track you abroad.

    And then when it all goes tits up and you need to come back to the UK you'll return to CCJs that were put through while you were out of the country so you'll have 0 credit score and wont be able to get a credit card or a mortgage so what will you live off of when you fail the habitual residence test and can't claim benefits?

    How disappointing. :(
  • oldie21
    oldie21 Posts: 22 Forumite
    to revert to the original subject, my daughter gets max EMA as our income in 2006-2007 was low, this was guaranteed into the 2nd year at college whatever our income & we were led to believe that this would continue into uni

    however the government website has just removed all reference to it which is not fair on people who have not been advised that it isn't now the case.
  • rev_henry
    rev_henry Posts: 4,965 Forumite
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    oldie21 wrote: »
    to revert to the original subject, my daughter gets max EMA as our income in 2006-2007 was low, this was guaranteed into the 2nd year at college whatever our income & we were led to believe that this would continue into uni

    however the government website has just removed all reference to it which is not fair on people who have not been advised that it isn't now the case.
    I quite agree.
  • surfsister
    surfsister Posts: 7,527 Forumite
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    rev_henry wrote: »
    I quite agree.

    yes this is quite annoying. does anyone have a copy of the 'promise' from the website?

    seems unfair to offer such a guarantee to teens then just forget about it!
  • rev_henry
    rev_henry Posts: 4,965 Forumite
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    surfsister wrote: »
    yes this is quite annoying. does anyone have a copy of the 'promise' from the website?

    seems unfair to offer such a guarantee to teens then just forget about it!
    I think it was actually a Bill going through Parliament which was quietly dropped.
  • Helix
    Helix Posts: 2,381 Forumite
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    Did the 5 year payment holiday get scrapped as well. It got mentioned a couple of years back when they said they were putting the income threshold upto £60,000 (which they then dropped to £50,000 the next year) but I have never seen it mentioned since.
  • Helix wrote: »
    Did the 5 year payment holiday get scrapped as well. It got mentioned a couple of years back when they said they were putting the income threshold upto £60,000 (which they then dropped to £50,000 the next year) but I have never seen it mentioned since.

    I think this has also been shuffled out the back door, at least for new applicants.
  • sarflee
    sarflee Posts: 375 Forumite
    I have found this and it does appear to state that the student support guarantee has been revised:

    http://www.bis.gov.uk/student-support-statement-010709
  • sarflee wrote: »
    I have found this and it does appear to state that the student support guarantee has been revised:

    http://www.bis.gov.uk/student-support-statement-010709


    I'm sorry, Rev Henry, but I think this new revision is fair. Why on earth should you be guaranteed university funding in your third year based on your parents financial circumstances when you were in Year 11????? If your family circumstances haven't changed, then fine and well done to the government for helping children from low-income families access higher education, but to guarantee hardship funding no matter what happens to your family income? Is stupid and a waste of money.

    (Personally, I also think the EMA guarantee should be scrapped, and was presumably only created to save on administration costs. How many other government income-related benefits do not take account of your current circumstances, and guarantee you free money no matter what for 3 years? Can you see that happening with Jobseeker's Allowance? "Ok, as you've lost your job this month we'll sign you up for JSA. Come back to reassess it in 2012.....")
  • GlasweJen
    GlasweJen Posts: 7,451 Forumite
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    I think it's fair as well to be honest, circumstances change all the time and it's not fair to say that people who got EMA at school should get full uni support no matter what and then make people whos circumstances were ok when they were at school but who've had something go wrong and now need help apply every year.
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