Pedestrian's group! Pavements and paths in icy weather

garyd

neilmcl wrote: »

My brother works for a local authority and believe me they're well aware of this. If you start gritting an area then you better make sure you continue to do so and to a good standard, from a legal standpoint its better not to attempt to grit at all.

Quite.
Also, if you grit/clear some non-essential areas (essential-Hospitals, GP surgeries, OAP homes, Schools etc) and not others then you become (illogically but legally!) liable for accidents that occur in the areas not gritted/cleared.

The problems at the moment are a lack resources e.g. grit/salt and the manpower.
As in normal everyday life there is a duty of care for one's self. It sems that there are a number of people currently who believe the PTB have a responsibility for everything! I blame the so called Nanny State.

IMHO.

geri1965_2

missymugwump wrote: »

Im torn on that one I can see the logic but part of me says ewwww
As you say dogs pee on the street it's prob only a problem if a child fell in it I guess ?
We have walked to our local shop every day and the amount of yellow snow is quite shocking,goes to show that just because we can't usually see it theres urine all over the streets anyway
Not a freak just inventive tell him necessity is the mother of invention and it's free :money: lol

I decided against it in the end, as someone pointed out that even though I removed the solids, there could still be a risk to pregnant women from the faeces. I think it's a minute risk but it did weigh on my mind.

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Optimist wrote: »

What a sad state of affairs this country has come to. I remember the times when everybody helped to clear the snow up and down the street now people are too busy expecting someone else to do it then winge on public forums when the pavements are icy and nobody takes responsibility anymore.

Rant over

I set up the group not to whinge but to offer a place where people could share tips and offer advice - and hopefully stir agencies *and* individuals into taking some practical action

Optimist

joolzred wrote: »

I set up the group not to whinge but to offer a place where people could share tips and offer advice - and hopefully stir agencies *and* individuals into taking some practical action

Don't take it personal more a general rant than getting at you :beer:

Mamzie

I've just posted this on a different MSE thread I started asking about a very similair subject...

Mamzie wrote: »

There is supposely H&S guidence, but not an actual specfic law that is saying this, but quite a few people hold a differing view and think it is more of a myth, inc BBC, an answer in Parliment, legal Blogs, etc, these say that you would only be liable if in fact you intentionally made the path more dangerous or acted with malice.

This is the most down to earth and sensible article I reckon

This is a quote from the blog linked to above.

Yes, I also started a FB group, but have also been out and about doing things as well, along with my family and neighbours. Come along and join us, your all very welcome

Snow - why can't we help Ourselves, Our Neighbours and our Communities

roddydogs

Why does the "You could get Sued" Nonsence get wheeled out evry time theres snow?
Do you know anyone whose been Sued and LOST?

geri1965_2

I've dealt with personal injury claims for about 15 years, never dealt with any involving snow being cleared from paths.

el_gringo_3

Maybe you should add a warning on your facebook group to the masses of people walking on main roads. There was a fella walking the wrong way down our local (busy city bus route) hill this morning causing all kinds of trouble, especially when he went ar5e over t1t in the middle of the road, and then another fella causing all kinds of bother on a side street I had to walk down between parking up and work, with cars having to virtually stop behind him, losing all momentum and then starting to skid backwards. Old fella wouldn't budge, even though the pavement didn't seem all that tough to me.


The daftest, though, are all the idiots I see walking along the road whilst wearing earphones/headphones. Are these people insane?

Bufger

joolzred wrote: »

The lady from the PTB (Somerset County Council) basically said yep - we are ignoring the paths and pavements as we can't/won't spend any more time/money - the roads are the priority and the rest of us have to take our chances!

I cant argue with that. They simply dont have enough grit to be able to cope with the adverse weather conditions we're experiencing. This is the worst snowfall over the longest period in 30 years and nobody can predict that. They are using all of their resources on the roads so people can still go to work - so the country doesnt grind to a halt.

I dont care if they grit the path, i'll take my chances. I cant walk to work (well i could but 22 miles would take a while in the snow!) so the roads need to be clear. If i break my wrist i'll shrug it off, at least i dont lose annual holiday having a sick note for a broken wrist! (i would if i didnt go due to snow).

Dizzy_Ditzy

geri1965 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what they think about my idea?

I use gritty cat litter for my cat - every day I remove the solids, and the tray is changed completely once a week. The dirty litter (it's just wet from urine, so no poop in it) is usually put into a carrier bag and into the bin.

Anyway, would it be really disgusting if I recycled it onto the icy pavements instead of binning it, during this weather? It is only urine, and dogs go on the pavement all the time. It's not even completely wet, a lot of it is dry and hasn't been touched, it's just hard to separate it.

My OH thinks I am a freak for even thinking about it.

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No you shouldnt consider it.

You just know that someone is going to fall down straight onto cat wee wee. Kids would still put their hands in their mouths

Just bin it

Why not just go outside with a shovel and sweeping brush? My driveway and access pavement has remained completely ice free since we have had snow and it took me maybe 20 minutes