School closed. You have to make the time up in holidays!

wiseman2

Before I go, I want to say, as I had originally planned, that snow days aren't easy for anyone. Teachers do not make the decision, it is on the head's head! Some take it as an opportunity to catch up, do paperwork etc. But it does not mean a day off, the work still has to be completed, children still have to reach targets.

I did know mostly what the job entailed when I signed up, and of course the opportunity to work late and take that time back in the holidays is a big hold. I love the kids, they are what drives most teachers. It is a mixed job, good and bad. We don't complain about everything! Promise!

Have a good night, good luck Juicyloo with your a level.

Juicyloo

imfedup- seems obvious to me it isn't about your kids coming to school, it's all about who's getting paid for what- just read through this thread for goodness sake!!!

crdraper

1. As teachers the snow days were used to: mark work, put work up on websites etc, rewrite schemes of work to accommodate lost time, making powerpoints etc.. I made extra powerpoints due to the reduced number of lessons before module exams. Students often have teachers email addresses to allow continued communication and help if requested.
2. The teachers had no say on if the schools were open.
3. Teachers do a lot of work at home anyway and go in to schools during holidays.
4. When students return teachers have to make changes for the time off. For instance, my year 12s will not get a lesson before their module so we had them coming at lunchtime to pick up their mock and go through it with them and held a make up revision lesson after school.
5. At the school I work at nearly all the teachers were in on the Friday even though the students weren't.
It is interesting that on the one hand we are expected to provide work for the students on the school's virtual learning environment and on the other we are seen to be simply 'taking time off' or 'getting extra holidays.'

Juicyloo

Well crdraper you seem like the kind of teacher parents want- going the extra mile and not whingeing- good on you. Sorry this is in italics- tired and going to bed- what a refreshing change you are, though.

FatAndy

DrDoo wrote: »

Do your research. Starting teacher's are no where near this pay.

Tell me then, what is starting teacher's pay. Interesting that you haven't chosen to quote a figure, it makes it look like you've got something to hide. I'm sure that there are millions of shop workers, factory workers, agricultural workers, hotel and catering workers, etc, etc, who are very concerned at how little you're being paid.

FatAndy

wiseman2 wrote: »

We don't consider our services free. We are not daycare!

So you're saying that you don't believe that teachers should take some reponsibility for the care of their pupils? I really, really hope that you don't work in my daughter's school. For the sake of your pupils please resign immediately and go and work in McDonalds.

FatAndy

penguin87 wrote: »

Basically, why should teachers have to go in extra days and make up the hours when everyone else is allowed to work from home?

When you say 'everyone else is allowed to work from home' are you referring to shop workers, factory worker or warehouse workers. Perhaps you mean all those people from High Street banks who took sacks of cash home so they could hand tenners out of their kitchen window to passing customers. Maybe you're referring to all those police officers who spent the day clearing all the unsolved crimes committed in their back gardens, or the firemen who were kept occupied by chip pan fires in their kitchens, or how about the ambulance drivers kept on standyby in case anyone slipped and fell in their bathrooms. Or what about gritter drivers, bus drivers, train drivers and delivery drivers? If your boiler broke down yesterday and you called a plumber would you expect him say 'I'll have a look at it but you'll need to bring it round to my house". I'm sure the National Grid can't operate unless the people paid to work in power stations turn up for work? Then again perhaps you're talking about postmen, binmen, mechanics, farmers or nurses. Surgeons will be fine, just scrub down the kitchen table and get operating :eek:.

OK so some office workers may be able to work from home. However lots of offices are a long way from being paperfree environments so without access to files full of documents, invoices etc it might not be possible to do much productive work. The organisation I work for has an online network and in theory I could do some work from home. However to access the network my home PC would need to have a software licence installed. These licenses cost money (I don't know how much) and our IT man would need to make a 120 mile round trip from his office to my house to install one. My organisation operates in the real world so that just ain't going to happen.

One thing I do whole heartedly agree with you on is that teachers should be treated equally to everyone else. Tens of millions of workers don't get paid, or lose annual leave, if they don't show up for work so if that's how most people are treated then I'm sure you'll agree that teachers should be entitled to be treated in the same way. Perhaps you could call your payroll section and see if they sort this out for you .

euronorris

Juicyloo - were you drunk last night? I've seen a few of your posts on various threads from last night, and, well.....they don't really make much sense. And you start accusing people of attacking you for no reason, then state you are trying to wind them up!

Either you're a troll, or your faculties were impaired. I'm not sure which.

johnburn

Are they proposing to pay back the time teachers spend covering for absences which takes away their planning and preparation time in school forcing them to do it at home.

Managers in schools are the worst offenders, they are always missing lessons to attend meetings, that is if they actually reach at all.

mikey72

DrDoo wrote: »

Do your research. Starting teacher's are no where near this pay.

Quite right, you have to have been a teacher three years for that to be your basic.

MAIN PAY SCALE
Year 1 £21,102
Year 2 £22,771
Year 3 £24,602
Year 4 £26,494
Year 5 £28,582
Year 6 £30,842

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