British Gas knocked a third off my boiler quote!

keystone

fatboyonadiet wrote: »

Not sure but it's never been done in my current house (20 yrs old) and I have been advised I have got build up

Of course you have some sludge build up. Its inevitable. Whether it adversely affects the performance of the current system is a different matter.

keith969 wrote: »

Yes but by who? Someone with a vested interest?

You are looking at this issue through the wrong end of the telescope. A system flush is almost mandatory as part of a new boiler install and should be included within the quoted price for the installation - not an optional extra.

Now if you were talking about the seemingly standard "Oh you need a powerflush and sorry its nor covered by your policy" diagnosis by BG and other utilities whatever problem the CH system is exhibiting then you are on the right track entirely.

Cheers

keith969

keystone wrote: »

ALL systems need flushing when a new boiler is put in. Its good practice anyway and most boiler manufacturers insist you have one or you don't get a warranty. Would you put really contaminated and filthy petrol in the brand new motor?

Cheers

Bad comparison - Petrol might power your car, but since when does water power your new boiler!!!

Anyhow if sheep think they need it, so be it.

keystone

keith969 wrote: »

Bad comparison - Petrol might power your car, but since when does water power your new boiler!!!

Aw c'mon use your brain. If you put filthy petrol in your nice new car you'll f up the injectors, screw up the combustion process and reduce the life of your engine. You put filthy, full of corrosives, CH water through a nice shiny new heat exchanger in your new boiler and you'll do the same thing. Still the wrong end of the telescope.

Anyhow if sheep think they need it, so be it.

I agree 100% in general terms, did I not say that before, but a flush is a must for a new boiler and if the boiler manufacturer won't give you the warranty without it because they know how the carp in most systems wreck a new boiler its hardly sheep mentality is it?

Cheers

fatboyonadiet

Had a look at the quote again and the flush is included in it!

cbrpaul

Can i just say ,

I agree a flush is required if old pipe work and rads are used when a new bioler is fitted, and this is essential if fitting a combi !!

However i myself , would prefer ALL new pipe work and rads be fitted along with a new bioler , !!!

When i get my system replaced I will request everything is re-newed !!

May cost me more yes , but this can be offset without the need for a system flush

cosyc

keith969 wrote: »

That's still £2400, sounds like a lot to me. Why not get a few quotes from local independent plumbers?

And why do you think your system needs flushing?

BG is always going to be dearer. They have the pay the sales man who calls, they provide him with a company car, fancy laptop and internet plus commission on the sale. Pay the surveyor and a company car, the sales team who answer your calls, the repair call centre, before the fitters etc.

We also got a price before xmas at £3800. It broke down the price whilst the bolier itself was too bad when so I checked on the internet all the extras they quoted was more. New water cylinder BG price £665 internet £414 (same make and model). Horizontal Flue £208 internet £54.

He said it would take 2 men 2 days the charge = £1464.89 but thet didn't include the extras of bricking up old hole £108, connect electrics and test £155, powerflush £272, condensation connection £72.

We had an independant down last night and he asked far more questions that BG, did shower run out of water, looked at existing pump, tanks in loft etc. which gave me far more confidence than the slick salesman from BG who's parting shot was ' you'll find it very difficult to get a like for like quote".

So we'll wait and see the difference

ormus

cbrpaul wrote: »

Can i just say ,

I agree a flush is required if old pipe work and rads are used when a new bioler is fitted, and this is essential if fitting a combi !!

However i myself , would prefer ALL new pipe work and rads be fitted along with a new bioler , !!!

When i get my system replaced I will request everything is re-newed !!

May cost me more yes , but this can be offset without the need for a system flush

with some of the daft prices ive seen quoted recently, new pipes maybe cheaper than a system flush!

keystone

ormus wrote: »

with some of the daft prices ive seen quoted recently, new pipes maybe cheaper than a system flush!

But then it will STILL need flushing out before use to remove the products of fitting the new pipework - mainly flux, solder and swarf. Letting that lot float about in your new boiler will do just as much damage!

Cheers

number49_2

Have you thought about using a local fitter? Or maybe asking a friend who's handy with the spanners??? :rotfl:

andrew-b

keystone wrote: »

But then it will STILL need flushing out before use to remove the products of fitting the new pipework - mainly flux, solder and swarf.

But surely that flush doesn't need to be a power one does it?

This leads to the question to the OP of what sort of flush have BG quoted you for?

p.s. i still wouldn't use BG regardless of price (just one big rogue trader IMHO that shouldn't be allowed to use the word "british"!)