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School closures are snow joke

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  • FatAndy
    FatAndy Posts: 7,541 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    Wrong end of the stick I'm afraid.
    I've never said my wife didn't go in when the school was open, or that she wasn't in the same situation as everyone else, in finding out that it was shut as she was travelling to it.
    I said that the kids school was open, and we, as parents, didn't send them.

    Don't parents get fined for not sending their kids to school in term time? And might it not look a bit embarrasing if the parent 'in the dock' is a teacher. Whatever the facts it does seem that you're both setting a very poor example to you kids by not making sure they get to school if it's open. Shame on you!
    The fridge is empty, the walls are damp, there's no hot water
    And I look like a tramp and tramps like us
    Baby we were born to walk
  • Grrr! I volunteer in a school as a teaching assistant, and my daughters go to the same school. One of them is ill today, so I arranged to to take her to my father's as he could look after her. I tookk my other daughter to nursery, and then walked in to school. After sitting in school for 40 minutes I'm told we're closed, so I leave to walk home. It's been a bit of a nightmare, mainly because of a sicky daughter and being up all night, but as I walk out of school all the parents love to have a go; 'oh it's ok for you to go home, some of us have to make other arrangements' and 'at least you get paid for taking the day off, I'll have to use leave' etc. I got so annoyed! I don't get paid anyways, I'd made arrangements too, and I'd also walked in like them, to be told we were shut. It's not the staff's fault and we don't all go out and play in the snow and have a lovely day off. I'm so bored of the snow now!
  • FatAndy wrote: »

    However what I am apologising for is targeting the wrong people, ie teachers. I still believe that I'm well within my rights to be angry at someone. I just don't know for sure who it is.

    Well why don't you work out who, and then come back when you've actually got a worthwhile point to make?

    You just sound like a moany idiot otherwise.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    edited 14 January 2010 at 11:07AM
    FatAndy wrote: »
    Don't parents get fined for not sending their kids to school in term time? And might it not look a bit embarrasing if the parent 'in the dock' is a teacher. Whatever the facts it does seem that you're both setting a very poor example to you kids by not making sure they get to school if it's open. Shame on you!

    No, it was fun.

    If you get on well with the school, the school will respect your decision not to have your kids struggle down lanes in the snow, to the school bus, then drive a few miles to an area where it may well be near enough clear (or not).
    Then have to struggle back later, without knowing if the weather may improve, and it will all melt, or another 10 inches could come in, and the school bus may or may not turn up.

    By the way, in your random, now non-directed rant, how do your kids get back if you did get another foot of snow? Do they walk the 3 or 4 miles? Sleep there overnight? Wait a few hours, if it gets worse, send them home, to sit on the doorstep?
    In the morning, at least the school knew they could get back.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    FatAndy wrote: »

    I still believe that I'm well within my rights to be angry at someone. I just don't know for sure who it is.

    Jack Frost?
    Queen of Narnia?
  • FatAndy
    FatAndy Posts: 7,541 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    Jack Frost?
    Queen of Narnia?


    Not Jack Frost. I believe he's only happy when temperatures drop below freezing which they didn't in my neck of the woods. I believe Jack was busy elsewhere at the time.

    Queen of Narnia - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Queen%20of%20Narnia If you've got any gossip about our headmaster I'd love to hear it :eek:.
    The fridge is empty, the walls are damp, there's no hot water
    And I look like a tramp and tramps like us
    Baby we were born to walk
  • FatAndy
    FatAndy Posts: 7,541 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    No, it was fun.

    If you get on well with the school, the school will respect your decision not to have your kids struggle down lanes in the snow, to the school bus, then drive a few miles to an area where it may well be near enough clear (or not).
    Then have to struggle back later, without knowing if the weather may improve, and it will all melt, or another 10 inches could come in, and the school bus may or may not turn up.

    By the way, in your random, now non-directed rant, how do your kids get back if you did get another foot of snow? Do they walk the 3 or 4 miles? Sleep there overnight? Wait a few hours, if it gets worse, send them home, to sit on the doorstep?
    In the morning, at least the school knew they could get back.

    In the worse case scenario my daughter could have spent the night at her grandparents house. They live about a ten minute walk away. Then again this is a small village primary school in a fairly urban area so I suspect that the majority of pupils live within easy walking distance. For the majority of the pupils in this specific school the likelihood of being stuck in school overnight is just about equal to the likelihood of being hit by a falling meteorite.

    The problem here is that I acted in relation to the weather where I live, you acted in relation to the weather where you live. We had 2cm of snow on Tuesday and no more was forecast. In fact we didn't have any more snow until a week to the day later when we had a further fall of 1cm. Since then we've had a third fall of 2cm. That's about 5cm all year. We were never going to get 'another foot of snow' in a million years, not least because to get 'another foor of snow' you have to have had a foot of snow in the first place. Think it through.

    This isn't unusual around here. Due to our geographical location we rarely get any snow at all and usually if we do it's gone in no time. Even when most of the country was suffering from adverse weather conditions we've enjoyed a relatively mild winter so far. Ok, maybe we could have suffered from unexpected freak weather conditions, but then again maybe I could have been knocked over by a bus (don't bother, I know what you're going to say) or hit by lightening. If I thought that way I'd never leave the house. The fact is that despite a small amount of frozen water having fallen has fallen from the sky I'm still going to get on with my life as normal.

    As for my kids, I'll continue to raise them knowing what it means to have a sense of responsibility. Imagine the chaos in 20-30 years time if all the kids of today are brought up believing that 2cm is enough to bring the world grinding to a halt? Sorry, I forgot, we've got global warming so there won't be anymore snow in 20-30 years time.
    The fridge is empty, the walls are damp, there's no hot water
    And I look like a tramp and tramps like us
    Baby we were born to walk
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    What a load of tosh.
    When i was at school..not that long ago..in Summer we did Cricket and athletics and in Winter i.e rain/snow we either did Rugby or Cross country. My school was on the verge of open coun try and we used to run miles in the Weather...no talk of 'elf n safety...yer ruddy Southern poofs..
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    FatAndy wrote: »
    In the worse case scenario my daughter could have spent the night at her grandparents house. They live about a ten minute walk away. Then again this is a small village primary school in a fairly urban area so I suspect that the majority of pupils live within easy walking distance. For the majority of the pupils in this specific school the likelihood of being stuck in school overnight is just about equal to the likelihood of being hit by a falling meteorite.

    The problem here is that I acted in relation to the weather where I live, you acted in relation to the weather where you live. We had 2cm of snow on Tuesday and no more was forecast. In fact we didn't have any more snow until a week to the day later when we had a further fall of 1cm. Since then we've had a third fall of 2cm. That's about 5cm all year. We were never going to get 'another foot of snow' in a million years, not least because to get 'another foor of snow' you have to have had a foot of snow in the first place. Think it through.

    This isn't unusual around here. Due to our geographical location we rarely get any snow at all and usually if we do it's gone in no time. Even when most of the country was suffering from adverse weather conditions we've enjoyed a relatively mild winter so far. Ok, maybe we could have suffered from unexpected freak weather conditions, but then again maybe I could have been knocked over by a bus (don't bother, I know what you're going to say) or hit by lightening. If I thought that way I'd never leave the house. The fact is that despite a small amount of frozen water having fallen has fallen from the sky I'm still going to get on with my life as normal.

    As for my kids, I'll continue to raise them knowing what it means to have a sense of responsibility. Imagine the chaos in 20-30 years time if all the kids of today are brought up believing that 2cm is enough to bring the world grinding to a halt? Sorry, I forgot, we've got global warming so there won't be anymore snow in 20-30 years time.

    Ok,
    so as long as you are ok, or even the "majority" you suspect live locally, or go to school near their grandparents are ok, the school can open, and it the odd few are stuck later, no loss then.
    You hindsight weather forecasting is good though, sounds about spot on.
    You might be really lucky as well, the bus that is just about to run you over, could be hit be the falling meteorite.
  • wallbash
    wallbash Posts: 17,775 Forumite
    .yer ruddy Southern poofs..

    :D I like a reasonable discussion . That's a good starting point. :rolleyes:


    Its getting to sound like an old record but .... communication!.

    Also we are seeing a social divide . Town ( city ) versus country.
    those outside the large urban masses cant seem to understand how a 2 cms of snow can paralysis large built up areas. We have in fact a few inches , but my main point , it takes very very little to foul up the delicate balance. Listen to the traffic reports , a defective traffic lights at a busy junction can cause chaos.

    Living close to the motorways ( M1 /M25 ) A5/A6 if we have an incident which closes one of those roads , will take hours to clear the roads near me. The vast numbers of cars seek an alternative route ..... and our smaller roads cant cope.
    if all the kids of today are brought up believing that 2cm is enough to bring the world grinding to a halt?

    So yes , our Southern kids ( raised by poofs.) can see the effects that 2cm of snow can bring .... the roads DO come to a grinding halt.
    Just be grateful that sitting in Traffic jams is not part of your daily life.




    ps
    This morning on BBC Breakfast they featured a head teacher who had to crawl across ice to reach his school because it was impossible to walk on it. My first reaction was 'top bloke'. My second reaction was 'I wish he was the head teacher in my daughter's school'

    That was my first thought , and my second BUT my third :confused:
    Was .... if he had broken his leg/hip etc what use would he been to his school .
    Perhaps a little thought , before his crawl would have been sensible.
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