Being forced to work hours back - snow

euronorris

piratefairy wrote: »

The trouble is that the majority of employees seem to feel they are entitled to pay due to the fact that they didn't get here due to snow (from management POV here)..It is that expectation which would cause me to use the day from their holiday entitlement (bear in mind that the majority of our employees live within the town (15mins in traffic max), rather than pay them for a day when they were not working. I have put this in the contracts, as management discretion in adverse weather conditions.

Well, when they return to the office, perhaps you can call a team meeting to clarify your company's policy in this regard.

You could open up the discussion for questions so that your employees understand what is expected of them and then everyone is clear on their 'entitlement'.

If they still feel they are entitled to pay after that, well, tough. At least you will have openly discussed the company policy with them so they can never claim they didn't know.

aj2703

Anihilator wrote: »

Bunch of skivers

Other than the islands there is no place were transport is impossible. You and your colleagues just can't be bothered doing a bit of extra effort/planning/travel.

LOL i have to admit you do crack me up sometimes. I swear you are N-i-D in disguise..:D

Blackpool_Saver

I wouldn't mind as long as it was convenient. I don't see the problem.

Anihilator

briona wrote: »

You've obviously never lived or worked in the South Wales Valleys! Try getting to the Rhondda Valley in the snow.

For five years, I lived in Cardiff (20 miles from my workplace so walking was not an option) and as I didn't drive, I commuted to work by public transport – train to Pontypridd (10 miles from my workplace), and bus from there to the Rhondda.

There is no train line in the Rhondda, hence the need for the bus, and the buses simply turn around and go back to the depot when they consider it too dangerous to carry on... and that's if they deign to turn up at all!

So, what would you have suggested?

Briona

Taxi, a lift, waiting for the bus.

If the roads were really that dangerous no one would make it in :rolleyes:

aj2703

briona wrote: »

You've obviously never lived or worked in the South Wales Valleys! Try getting to the Rhondda Valley in the snow.

For five years, I lived in Cardiff (20 miles from my workplace so walking was not an option) and as I didn't drive, I commuted to work by public transport – train to Pontypridd (10 miles from my workplace), and bus from there to the Rhondda.

There is no train line in the Rhondda, hence the need for the bus, and the buses simply turn around and go back to the depot when they consider it too dangerous to carry on... and that's if they deign to turn up at all!

So, what would you have suggested?

Briona

I expect he will tell you to charter a helicopter......lmao

nickyhutch

Anihilator wrote: »

Trains and buses are running though.... Or what about a taxi? or lift ? or walk?

There may be delays but very very few complete cancellations of both.

Maybe the OP wants to tell us where she is travelling from and too so we can see this cut off area

Not in Oldham, they aren't.

OP. it depends on your workplace, but generally if you don't work, you need to make the time up, or take a day's leave. That's only fair - it's not your boss's fault it snowed, is it?

Anihilator

mazza111 wrote: »

In some places. Remember the added time onto the journey too. The first day of snow up here it took my daughter 4 hours to get to work. They weren't amused when she called them as they thought that she wasn't going to come in. When she explained she was still on her first bus, and had another to catch, they were jumping for joy that she was coming in at all. Normally her bus ride takes between 60 -90 minutes depending on what shift she's on. Luckily they didn't ask her to make the time back as they knew she had made the effort 4 weeks later up here, things are starting to get easier, but buses are still running slowly.

Some of the farms haven't had mail for 3 weeks either, and I live in neither the highlands or the islands.

The added journey time really is irrelevent.

If they can make it they should. If there late then explain why to management and hope they let them off with the time.

The fact is the majority of people make it into work fine only to find a few in the office (normally by complete coincidence the known idiots/scammers) havent even tried.

It is reasonable to expect people to make a bit of extra effort occassionally due to snow. The country shouldnt need to grind to a stop.

I am in an area which was heavily effected by snow and other than delays with trains and buses everything is going fine. its not unreasonable to leave a bit early.

SandC

There were 8 people who could get in, presumably they lived closer and could walk or drive or their particular area still had good public transport. Therefore it is simply not fair on those employees if the company were to just let everyone else have a day off without having to take holiday entitlement or work hours back.

If everyone had been in the same boat then it might be a different matter.

euronorris

Anihilator wrote: »

Taxi, a lift, waiting for the bus.

If the roads were really that dangerous no one would make it in :rolleyes:

Taxi - Not always possible. A lot refuse to drive in such bad conditions and those who will drive, are very busy and so getting one booked may not be possible.

A lift - From who? Fairy Godmother?

Waiting for the bus - a futile task if they are not running!

Not everyone lives in the same place. Some are closer to work than others and so experience different challenges in their journey.

For example, if I lived within a 2-3 miles of work, I could still walk to work. But if I was further out, say 10 miles for example, then I wouldn't be able to walk.

geri1965_2

I'm lucky as my company will pay people who can't get in due to snow.

I normally walk to work (2 miles) but when we had bad snow last year I thought I would get a bus pass for the week as the pavements were very icy and dangerous. Bad mistake as the buses stopped running! I took the first day as a snow day but on the second day I had some important stuff to do at work so I thought I had better go in - no buses, and no taxis either as they all said it was too dangerous to send anyone out. I walked in the end, but it took me almost twice as long as usual and my feet got soaking wet. When I got into work there was no heating as the boiler had broken down a few days previously, so I had no way to dry my wet socks and boots!

I then had to walk home because although all the roads were clear and buses had started running to most other places, none were running to where I live - 2 miles from the centre of Bristol!