[Rant] Job agency types

voiceofreason

BenS1 wrote: »

Right, I wish to offer my future apologies to anyone who gets offended by this. These are my opinions which have formed looking for a job since August.

There are several types of job agencies about:

1) Those who actually give a **** about you. The ones who actually have real jobs that their clients need filling. You guys are great, I applaud you and any contact you've made for job applications I've made and passed my CV on to potential employers.

2) The employers themselves. They are about, just few far and between even through I've applied for the thousand jobs I've applied for. You ain't too bad either, I've had a few telephone interviews, and even 2 interviews for a family business where the role was very remotely what I had graduated in.

3) The one's who post fake vacancies up, just to get jobseeker's details. Very unethical, and immoral. **** you all who fit in this category. Do you think I am ******* stupid to not be able to remember what jobs I have applied for? Or even, what the **** I have applied to? My covering letter below for such a vacancy is shown:


**** that agency in particular, I just did a google on your name and found how many times that fake vacancy was listed.

Rant over, and once again I would like to say this had to come out. No hard feelings to any readers.

Oh, and if anyone has spoted any other agency types then why not list them too.

Can't argue with a lot of that; far too many lying, thick oxygen-thieves working for cr*ppy "agencies" about.

Best of luck finding some work - keep on keepin' on, you'll get there sooon enough.....

mr_fishbulb

justcat wrote: »

I do kinda agree as I am in the process of job hunting but I'm just giving the other scenario.
If it is real, his email sounds a bit offish.

Give it a couple more months of dealing with agencies and you might change your mind

When I first started job hunting, I would make a list of every job I applied for and make a follow-up call to the agency the same day and a few days later. I would also make a list of ones where they said they had put my CV forward for the role and would call them every few days to see if they had heard anything.

I call that my naive stage. I soon learnt that there is no point calling them. If there was any chance of them making their commission by placing me, then they would call me. If not then they wouldn't give me a second thought.

BLUis

voiceofreason wrote: »

Can't argue with a lot of that; far too many lying, thick oxygen-thieves working for cr*ppy "agencies" about.
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Can I just say, my OH is a managing recruitment consultant. He has been for many years, albeit in a specialised area (engineering). He absolutely does his best for any candidates that he puts forward for a job, even going to meet one who was having a job interview on 29 December (we were on holiday) to make sure he was ok. If someone isn’t suitable for a position, he tells them why and if their CV isn’t quite up to scratch, he does his best to get them to give them some advice as to how to improve it.

So please, before you tar all consultants with the same brush, think about the genuine people, who really want to help.

He got made redundant himself from one agency last year, when the recession really started to hit, but was able to get another job pretty much straight away because of his reputation and his past successes for which he has received awards and testimonials.

mr_fishbulb

BLUis wrote: »

Can I just say, my OH is a managing recruitment consultant. He has been for many years, albeit in a specialised area (engineering). He absolutely does his best for any candidates that he puts forward for a job, even going to meet one who was having a job interview on 29 December (we were on holiday) to make sure he was ok. If someone isn’t suitable for a position, he tells them why and if their CV isn’t quite up to scratch, he does his best to get them to give them some advice as to how to improve it.

So please, before you tar all consultants with the same brush, think about the genuine people, who really want to help.

He got made redundant himself from one agency last year, when the recession really started to hit, but was able to get another job pretty much straight away because of his reputation and his past successes for which he has received awards and testimonials.

He is one of the very few who seem to have a heart, however the vast majority of his peers give the profession a bad name. Glad he got another job

BLUis

mr_fishbulb wrote: »

He is one of the very few who seem to have a heart, however the vast majority of his peers give the profession a bad name. Glad he got another job

Me too, we had just bought a house 2 months before!

hollydays

Agree with the OP.When you look for jobs you need to be able to read between the lines,much as you do with estate agents descriptions.Also beware any job described as marketing.The job centre is full of such sham jobs and they seem quite happy to let these charletans continue.

voiceofreason

BLUis wrote: »

voiceofreason wrote: »

Can't argue with a lot of that; far too many lying, thick oxygen-thieves working for cr*ppy "agencies" about.
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Can I just say, my OH is a managing recruitment consultant. He has been for many years, albeit in a specialised area (engineering). He absolutely does his best for any candidates that he puts forward for a job, even going to meet one who was having a job interview on 29 December (we were on holiday) to make sure he was ok. If someone isn’t suitable for a position, he tells them why and if their CV isn’t quite up to scratch, he does his best to get them to give them some advice as to how to improve it.

So please, before you tar all consultants with the same brush, think about the genuine people, who really want to help.

He got made redundant himself from one agency last year, when the recession really started to hit, but was able to get another job pretty much straight away because of his reputation and his past successes for which he has received awards and testimonials.

Suffice to say, your fella is most certainly not one of those I'm talking about here - he sounds very much worth his corn and it's pleasing to hear he's back in work after the setback!

I'm talking about some of the vapid, semi-literate muppets who I (and OP, clearly) have dealt with in the past when looking for work. "Genuine people, who want to help"? Some of the space-cadets I've experienced would have trouble helping themselves to a humbug from a paper bag......

BLUis

what kind of work are you looking for? i might know someone who could help!!:rolleyes:

justcat

What have you got? I've been looking for a job in IT since June!

Basil1234

sorry if my post proves upsetting here ill give you my exprience of 10yrs of when i used to do agencys
the agencys get many people to join as they can on there books it provides them with a database to ref to for jobs coming and hopefully out of there jobs coming in they can cover the skills required.

so with the carefully select many as they can all these cvs are spitted over to the client quickly as possiable in the hope there agency gets someone selected for the job otherwise another agency will fill it.

The only way i found to get on top was this tailor the cv to the market your appealling to in my case was electronics manfacture/electronics test tech anyway only cover the jobs that are truely relevant.

the next stage was get them to hit out cvs in that catergory for interview and soon as a cv was sent out about a potenial interview i would phone them up at least twice a day once about 10.30ish when a manager has got there factory working etc then phone about 2-3ish and i would do this everyday without fail.
to the point i became a pleasant but polite pain in their ear. If the agency bloke has got 10 on interview who do you think he will try and push the one who is the keenest always in his ear and thinks if he doesnt get this one out the way he will be back in my ear tommorrow.

Most agency reps don't give a fig about you or anyone really they know they are more than likely to get commsion come what may in the main. so you have goto learn to play them at there own game i found out in the 10yrs i used to use them and thats key either use them but you will have too do the work if you really want it (not that i'm saying your not trying) you just have to be so damn poilte annoying they will try get you out the way first because it becomes a headache to them. it worked fine for me for about 10yrs then decided to get out of the agency racket overall but always gets you back in work quicker when things have been slow taken anywork then get onto all the agencys not just one.

my neighbour was unemployed for six months joined 1 agency and then expected them to do all the work and phone him, he would phone them once a week with no results in 6 months he ended up selling up and moving up north as it was cheaper up there!
longest i was ever out of work in ten years was about 2-3 week but in the main between jobs was 1 week i know its all changed now with the recession but some times its better to be that pain in the bum and better to earn some thing rather than that rubbish the goverment give you of the ub40.