Quick Question regarding getting to work in snow.

new_home_owner_3

jdturk wrote: »

thing is its not a deduction, its not like the person worked and got the money taken off them, for example if you are hourly paid...you have not done the hours so wouldn't get paid

the link says if you looked you are

Q. I couldn't get to work because of the snow. Can my boss dock my pay?
Very few jobs - except perhaps some of those in industries such as construction - have a clause written into their contract saying that if employees cannot get in to work because of weather they lose a day's pay.
Employees have statutory protection against an unauthorised deduction being made from their wages, so if the employer has no contractual right to deduct pay and if the employee does not consent, deducting pay would be potentially subject to legal challenge.
In any event, given the widespread disruption in many parts of the country and travel warnings not to make non-essential journeys, it is unlikely that many managers would take this step.



basically you would get paid, and i know as soon as i showed my employee this information and gave the details of my employment solicitor the money would be paid...

jdturk

Another option would be to deduct pay but this is likely to be seen as unduly draconian.

that is a quote from further in the article, to me it seems to be giving mixed signals

[Deleted User]

This may help clarify this -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/jan/05/unions-weather-home-work

jdturk

The TUC said employers should ensure that any workers who were on site when it started to snow would be able to get home safely, and were not put at risk if the weather worsened.
Those who are unable to get into work or work remotely will find their entitlement to pay will depend on their company's policy.
The TUC said while there was no legal right to be paid if you don't go into work, many companies had "bad weather" policies so that employees who were kept away from work by the weather conditions were still paid.

so maybe you don't have a statutory right to pay for snow....

new_home_owner_3

jdturk wrote: »

The TUC said employers should ensure that any workers who were on site when it started to snow would be able to get home safely, and were not put at risk if the weather worsened.
Those who are unable to get into work or work remotely will find their entitlement to pay will depend on their company's policy.
The TUC said while there was no legal right to be paid if you don't go into work, many companies had "bad weather" policies so that employees who were kept away from work by the weather conditions were still paid.

so maybe you don't have a statutory right to pay for snow....

I think you will find most companies dont have a policy for bad weather and if they havent got a policy for bad weather which you will find most dont, then they will have to pay them if they go down the legal route.

Its mainly construction workers, who have a bad weather policy, ive looked through mine and it doesnt say a dickie bird about bad weather....

jdturk

I would disagree I would say most have a bad weather policy, the company I work for do. We'll have to agree to disagree

new_home_owner_3

Basically what im saying is this worse case scenario you take the advice from the met office and you dont travel to work, has the experts have said its unsafe to do so.

Then your employer doesnt pay you and there is nothing in the working policy about bad weather, but your local manager believes you should have come in.

You disagree with this and put a failure to agree and then it escalates, now internally the management might all agree with the local manager , as thats what the company believes is right.

Then has you are not happy with the internal dispute, you escalate it to tribunal level where indipendent people and outside officers have to look at the evidence put in front of them..

Now anyone looking in from the outside would side with the employee, especailly with evidence from the met office, so the chances are managers above the local manager would realise this at a early stage and you would almost certainly be paid.

Ill let you know how i get on, because if it keeps on snowing here i wont be going to work tomorrow.

jdturk

new_home_owner wrote: »

Basically what im saying is this worse case scenario you take the advice from the met office and you dont travel to work, has the experts have said its unsafe to do so.

Then your employer doesnt pay you and there is nothing in the working policy about bad weather, but your local manager believes you should have come in.

You disagree with this and put a failure to agree and then it escalates, now internally the management might all agree with the local manager , as thats what the company believes is right.

Then has you are not happy with the internal dispute, you escalate it to tribunal level where indipendent people and outside officers have to look at the evidence put in front of them..

Now anyone looking in from the outside would side with the employee, especailly with evidence from the met office, so the chances are managers above the local manager would realise this at a early stage and you would almost certainly be paid.

Ill let you know how i get on, because if it keeps on snowing here i wont be going to work tomorrow.

If they have no policy you are correct but I would say the vast majority of employers have a policy and if they don't they soon will . And if they have a policy and it says they don't get paid they don't get paid

dieselhead

I think that there are two sides to this, first of all I think that his employer should have been a little more symathetic to his problem. However I also think that if you can't get to work you shouldn't expect to be paid, unless of course you can work from home.

You say that the taxi wouldn't come to his house as the road wasn't treated, why couldn't he walk to the nearest treated road and get a taxi to and from there.

Secondly, he is young, and perfectly capable of walking in the snow, he was silly not to have dressed for the weather, all he needed to take was some sturdier shoes and his work shoes in a carrier bag.

Plushchris

Just another quick question, what if you can get to work but your employer tells you to stay at home as the office will be closed?

Should you get paid or not?