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  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,082 Forumite
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    marcg wrote: »
    Does that work? I know you can get higher ratings if you change the fittings to ones which will only accept low energy bulbs but didn't know you could just change the bulbs in normal fittings?

    Yes, it's worth all of 2 points I think.
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  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,082 Forumite
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    edited 3 January 2010 at 12:45PM
    kriss_boy wrote: »
    I lot of properties on the internet are all band C and D which is pretty low right?

    Wrong. I'm sure the average was something like an E! (Googled it - average house in England and Wales is an E - 46 points)

    It's impossible to get an old house above a C. Having completely stripped back a house to walls, having argon glass in the windows to exceed building regs, loft insulation to exceed building regs, floors completely dug out and insulated, internal insulation added to the walls to meet current regs, brand new A rated condensing boiler the house was still a C - just 2 points below a B rating. We were told that the only way to do it was to put a wind turbine up - as if that was going to happen! (In a number of cases, a wind turbine actually uses more energy than it produces but it would get you extra points on). The average rating for a brand new house is supposed to be a B.

    The scale is based on the expected quality of houses going forward. You'd have to be carbon neutral to get an A rating. Whether you could do enough to get yourself up a band with small changes, I don't know. Whatever you do, it's not going to get you above a C.
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  • Should be able to get the loft and wall cavity done for £300, ring your energy supplier.
  • Patr100
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    Should be able to get the loft and wall cavity done for £300, ring your energy supplier.

    But as I said, the EPC compiler won't look in the loft or check properly for cavity insulation so as a seller , you're wasting your money...
  • moggylover
    moggylover Posts: 13,324 Forumite
    Patr100 wrote: »
    But as I said, the EPC compiler won't look in the loft or check properly for cavity insulation so as a seller , you're wasting your money...


    I think that needs qualifying! Whilst I am sure that there are a large number of cowboy companies out there doing these reports: MY EPC compiler DID look in my loft, and measured with a tape measure:D and they are required to. If yours did not - then report them! The same with mistakes on the report - go back and insist they get it right and if they do not then report them!

    This is very much a jobs for the boys exercise that costs us money: the least we should be doing is insisting that they do the job properly.
    "there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"
    (Herman Melville)
  • david29dpo
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    I did just that, reported a lazy EPC inspector and they didn't care. They pay money to join!
  • kinglewis
    kinglewis Posts: 194 Forumite
    Hmm... Im just thinking in respect to the state the property market is in.

    If you sell your house but the buyers see the report and have cold feet. Maybe £1000 spent on ensuring you house appears to be as best it can be would be worth it.

    Homebase have cheap insulation and foil. I reckon Ill get under the floor boards in the next month or two and get it installed.

    You will sell anyway if you price the house right.. Waste of money in my opinion. No one buys a house based on an EPC result!!

    Think about it.. when you are searching for the home of your dreams.. do you fall in love with the house.. or the energy efficiency!!??
  • sarah_elton
    sarah_elton Posts: 2,017 Forumite
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    As a buyer who's been looking for many months due to a very fussy set of requirements in a small search area, I can honestly say that I couldn't care less that band a house I like is on the EPC.

    Spending £1k (say) on freshening up paint, de-cluttering, the front of the house (kerb appeal is so important with the way people flick down Rightmove dismissing houses on first sight) would be much more worthwhile in my opinion.

    As for the EPC ratings themselves, the fact it counts for something if you put low-energy bulbs in normal fittings where you previously had normal bulbs says it all really.
  • Angela
    Angela Posts: 1,533 Forumite
    david29dpo wrote: »
    I did just that, reported a lazy EPC inspector and they didn't care. They pay money to join!
    If no joy complaining to the inspector go through their accreditation scheme complaints procedure details will be on the EPC, please do we need to get these cowboys out of the business.
  • david29dpo
    david29dpo Posts: 3,986 Forumite
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    Thats what i did!
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