Are You Doing 10:10? If So, What?

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I agree Alison, two of my grandchildren are at college, and one of them has to get two buses to get there, and the other one just one if its running(half the time its cancelled and I get a frantic call from her for me to pick her up and run her to college) and it costs just under a fiver a day,even at half the adult fare.
I am lucky that I have a bus pass as I am a pensioner.But there are times like tomorrow when I have a hospital appointment where I will have to use my car as its two buses to get there, and if the weather is snowy as forecast I would be very unstable on my stick. Bus fares in Kent are very high, and I'm sure if they were cheaper and more frequent folk would use them more.Where ever you go in the Medway, 9 times out of 10 you have to go into Chatham first, then get another bus out to where you want to go.There are no cross town routes, very wasteful I think.

Butterfly_Brain

thriftlady wrote: »

Are you serious? Are there really people that think that? Reminds me of when Black Saturn said she didn't eat any fruit and veg at all because she thought the Five a Day campaign was just a way for the govt to make farmers richer.

Thank you Wigglebeena for alerting me to this campaign -I'd not heard anything about it till now.

I take it you did not read the article in the Daily Express on 15 December 100 reasons why global warming is natural?

Butterfly_Brain

Read this article on petrol prices
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?pageOffset=&pageSize=&orderBy=dateDesc&searchPhrase=petrol+tax+rise&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&button=%3CSPAN+class%3Darrow-small-r%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3EClear+all&_contenttype=on&_contenttype=on&button=%3CSPAN+class%3Darrow-small-r%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3EClear+all&dateupdated=&dateFrom=&dateTo=&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&button=%3CSPAN+class%3Darrow-small-r%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3EClear+all&_personnames=on&_personnames=on&button=%3CSPAN+class%3Darrow-small-r%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3EClear+all

smeeinnit

I too am not entirely convinced that global warming is solely the fault of man, I may be ignorant and unaware of the full facts but I just dont think we know enough about how our planet works to know what is happening now it is not part of the natural change in global temperatures. After all we have had several ice ages, I bet my last mince pie there have been hot ages too, that are generally not as interesting as ice ages so dont get talked about.

Anyway, what I do believe is that fossil fuel will run out, half the planet are guilty of massive and sickening overconsumption and unless we do something tangible then it will possibly contribute to GW, or at the very least, bring about a massive change in all our lives and we will live much more like we used to before oil was discovered. I do try to drive as little as possible, we have a very economical car (and as its 2 bus journeys and 2 hours to go to work, all of 9 MILES away and 15 mins in the car :eek:) I am not in a position to give it up.

I recycle as much as the council will allow, but infuriatingly they have just changed their recycling policies and half of what I previously recycled they will not accept any more and now has to go back in the ordinary bin :mad::mad::mad:. I am trying to shop more locally, supporting local farmers and butchers but its quite hard to change decades of habits I must admit. I do also try and cook from scratch as much as I can,minimise food waste to as close to zero as possible, peelings etc go in the composter, uneaten food from plates goes out for the wildlife, and I am considering keeping chickens.

I am sitting in my living room, in almost darkness watching TV (guilty pleasure, sorry!) but feeling a little better about it because the temperature outside is almost zero and the heating is not on, I have fleeces and thick socks on and I feel just fine.

I'm not preaching, bit of a rant maybe! But like most of us here I am trying to do my bit, recognise my limitations, and am trying not to be wasteful ....also trying not to get caught up in all the marketing hype for so called eco friendly products.

Penelope_Penguin

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Valli

Caterina wrote: »

Sometimes it just feels that no matter what we do it is still not enough and it is very frustrating seeing so many people just living as if nothing mattered and just not caring. Ok, end of rant, sorry....

wigglebeena wrote: »

I can see the campaign must be a bit annoying for those who are already doing most of the suggested things. I don't think you're really the target audience, though:

I'd agree with Wigglebeena, Caterina. It's aimed at people like ME who do SOME but could do more.
Having said that I can still remember being VERY cross with someone who lives within 2 minutes walking distance of a plastic/glass/tins recycling facility who said she beleived that, as she paid council tax, the binmen should collect her rubbish...so not seeing any further than getting it off her hands.

My avid recycling however does mean that my bin is only ever half full even on two week collections!

Fred_Bear_2

Penelope_Penguin wrote: »

You'd be amazed at the nonsense that is spouted in the local press, the latest from one of our MEPs (click on the link to his blog) :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Penny. x

Thanks for that link Penny, it's very funny. My favourite bit was this quote:

"I don’t care about the climate, I care about the weather. It’s not the climate that’s going to stop you getting to work, it’s the weather."

Fred
p.s. The guy is joking, isn't he?

ChocClare

I have to say that the site annoyed me slightly in that it just had a checklist without any proper suggestions or even links to other sites to tell you "how" (unless I'm totally blind, which is a distinct possibility ).

The last time we flew was in 2005 when we went to see family in India; we always turn everything off, have insulation as thick as we can (though we can't have cavity wall insulation as our house is 17th century - but the walls are over a metre thick so presumably that also helps :rolleyes:), we have solar panels, wood-burning stoves and are just looking into getting the RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE AND UGLY photovoltaic cells so that we can generate electricity; we run our car on waste vegetable oil; we grow vegetables, nuts and fruit and keep chickens and bees; we compost and recycle everything; we cook from scratch and don't throw food away; my daughter is vegetarian so we always have at least one meal a week when all of us eat veggie; we have a water meter, have huge tanks all round the garden for collecting rain water for the vegetable garden (and a river at the bottom of the garden also helps!).
*Pauses for breath*
However - "leave your car at home one day a week"? Yeah, right - we live in the COUNTRY. There is a bus which comes once every two hours and only goes to a small town down the road which is not anywhere near either the kids' schools or my work. For my daughter to get to school, she would have to walk three miles along a road with no pavement to the nearest village with any kind of school bus running to it and she would have to be there before 10 past eight in the morning. For my son to get to college, he would have to walk the same three miles and then catch two buses to get to Bournemouth, which would cost him about five pounds per day. And I KNOW we all walked twenty miles in't snow in't dark and licked the road clean wi' our tongues to get to school when we were kids, but there just WASN'T THE TRAFFIC to contend with then. If traffic were like it was in the seventies when I went to the same school, I'd be happy for her to cycle there, at least in the summer - I used to, a journey of five miles - now I'd be worried she'd be killed a dozen times over. The chap who lives opposite us (who is the retired gamekeeper for the estate) has a photo on his wall of beaters waiting to go out on a shoot in the 'seventies - there are about twenty of them, and they are all standing in the road outside his (and our) house waiting for the game lorry to arrive. He says that they only used to see a car about once every half an hour - now they absolutely pelt down this road at a good 60mph even though the parish council has just had a 30mph speed limit put up for our hamlet. :mad:

Next rant: don't eat meat once a week - but don't eat cheese either as it's just as bad. OK, fine, but how about some links to some nice vegan or at least cheese-free recipes? They'd be very useful! :mad:

*Breathes deeply* I know, I know, it's not aimed at me personally. I just think it could be a LOT better. And I'm certainly not printing anything out to put on my fridge. What a waste of energy and resources!!!!! :rotfl:

wigglebeena

Well, no vegan shop this weekend: on the other hand, NO shop this week-end, so it amounts to about the same thing. I did make vegan Cornish pasties and they rocked.

I did buy some charity shop jeans rather than patronise Primark this week. Doing my bit!