Norton

spaceboy

computershack wrote: »

AVG fared extremely poorly in the recent AV-Comparatives testing. Microsoft Security Essentials scored consistently high in performance, detection and removal.

In Computer Shopper AVG 8.5 was poor but it updated to 9.0 half way through their test and that was much better apparently.

I'd go with MSE though.

However, Norton is quite good actually. Much better than McAfee. It's as good or better than Kaspersky but more expensive.

computershack

spaceboy wrote: »

However, Norton is quite good actually. Much better than McAfee. It's as good or better than Kaspersky but more expensive.

Norton is not even in the same league as Kaspersky. AV-Comparatives always rate it at least a grade lower.

Millionaire

computershack wrote: »

Norton is not even in the same league as Kaspersky. AV-Comparatives always rate it at least a grade lower.

Personally I never understand the blind Norton bashing on here. Numerous threads on here, and at the mention of Norton people start going on about 'remove it'. 'its awful', 'bloated', 'poor detection rates' etc etc, which strictly is not true of the latest versions.

Yes in past years it became bloated and not very good.(By the way I would be someone that would have been saying that a while back). But since the release of Norton 360, which they rebuilt from the ground up, and the release of 2009 and 2010, its one of the best Paid for AV's about.

And on that note, AV-Comparatives have also just named Symantec their 'AV Product of the Year 2009'.

Pinkless

I cant find the removal tool to get rid of the last bit of Norton ?
any chance of a link ?

Millionaire

Pinkless wrote: »

I cant find the removal tool to get rid of the last bit of Norton ?
any chance of a link ?

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

ses6jwg

dehaani wrote: »

I would have to recommend MSE or Avira AntiVir. I know AVAST is good too but I haven't personally used it.

AVG has been performing very badly compared with the competition these days as computershack said.

I use Avira and the free version gives you one big pop up advert every day. It doesn't bother me in the slightest but it bothers my girlfriend when she's playing Sims and it interrupts her game. Avira really doesn't impact your systems performance much.

Hello mate, I have successfully stopped this pop up coming up on both an XP Home and Vista Business machine, do a google search on Avira Popup and everything is explained.

mamazaac

Millionaire wrote: »

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

This link gives options to select your product. I have symantec antivirus 10.0.1.1000. I would much appreciate it if someone could tell me which one I should select please?

debitcardmayhem

mamazaac wrote: »

This link gives options to select your product. I have symantec antivirus 10.0.1.1000. I would much appreciate it if someone could tell me which one I should select please?

It shouldn't matter if you just want to just remove it, the choice is for saving your product key if you wan't to re-install.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Millionaire wrote: »

Personally I never understand the blind Norton bashing on here. Numerous threads on here, and at the mention of Norton people start going on about 'remove it'. 'its awful', 'bloated', 'poor detection rates' etc etc, which strictly is not true of the latest versions.

Yes in past years it became bloated and not very good.(By the way I would be someone that would have been saying that a while back). But since the release of Norton 360, which they rebuilt from the ground up, and the release of 2009 and 2010, its one of the best Paid for AV's about.

And on that note, AV-Comparatives have also just named Symantec their 'AV Product of the Year 2009'.

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I agree with most of what you say, for 360 see this post on this site : 0730hrs httpforums.moneysavingexpert.comshowthread.htmlt=2310381

"" If you get an engine Error the filter is off but from my testing it will not stay off for long if it ever goes off at all ""

- 99% of individual responses [ positives ] are ' phanboy ' based and [ negative ] previous bad experiences with bad products.

The truth of the matter is that any AV can, if it so chooses get close to 100% protection, but at the cost of :

- price
- slow net
- slow e-mail
- slow boot up
- false positives
- slow HDD
- choked memory
- high CPU use
- high CPU heat
- etc

I decided a decades ago that (1) comparable detection over (2) false positives divided by (3) price was the best equation.

I note that AV-Comparatives gave Microsoft Security Essentials Gold, f-Secure Silver & Symantec Bronze in respect of 'false positives '.

A false positive is every bit a dangerous / devastating as the real thing. The linear relationship between high detection at the cost of high false alarms is the reason I stopped using the excellent Kaspersky, and mine was a free [ beta tester for them ] copy, and the primary reason I switched to Security Essentials.

My conclusion is that an unobtrusive, % effective, don't frighten the children program that is small, needs no maintenance from me and just quietly works is the best bet, and if it's free ( for now ) then so much the better reason for choosing it over all of the others.

This forum is about Money Saving, not about ' freebies ', I have the money but it would not make me feel better to spend it on any paid for program whose performance is at best similar to - and at worst puts my machines at risk when a fully performing ad free, small footprint, low CPU use AV is available free of charge !

Norton / Symantec do not fit into that catagory.

debitcardmayhem

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

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Norton / Symantec do not fit into that catagory.

Old fella no disrespect , remove foot from mouth or prove it, like this guy is trying to with experience as displayed here .
Too much has been said about paid for vs free A/V it is all about personal choice / recommendation(informed rather than anti paid for or quote(bloated etc etc)) following either informed or bigoted opinion,
At the end of the day the choice is theirs , following independent hopefully, from this forum, advice. I use Norton (carp by your opinion and others, but the jury still out until we get the result of bob's test, see post mentioned above) but my choice for, other reasons than personal choice, others use Avast/MSE/Avira et alia., and I have tried MSE and Avast/AVG. Yes some are worse/better than others in personal opinions, at the end of the day paid for/free are all the same if the user is naive enough to to let sites he does not trust on to his PC or Welcome mat.

OK end of my rant, people on this forum help others, and you are no different, but I feel you are very anti paid for A/V esp Norton/McAfee (IMO ...i know i said "I feel") Sorry if this offends but i am opinionated(not hard at my age ) It is a fantastic forum we troll though hoping to help those younger or less experienced(seems a better simile:p) than us. I hope I not am offending you, that is not my intention :sad: