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  • abby1234519
    abby1234519 Posts: 1,961 Forumite
    Why are the predicted grades lower than what he actually got? I got my predicted grades based on what I actually got in my AS'S
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  • Zack1
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    Why are the predicted grades lower than what he actually got? I got my predicted grades based on what I actually got in my AS'S
    A teacher at my old school said that unless the teacher singles you out as having exceptionally high ability, or your AS grade was borderline (i.e. you got C but were 5 marks from B or something) then you'll get a grade lower in A2 (so D in this case) than you did in AS, so they enter your prediction as 1 grade below your AS grade - but, with borderline cases, they can predict the same grade (as in this case the person would be close to getting the B at AS, so one grade lower being C at A2).

    I don't know how well that works in theory but a lot of our grades seemed to be done like that, and this information comes from one teacher who told us she'd predict us 1 grade lower unless the uni said we needed a certain grade - but she did say (and I agree with this), that that is the reason predicted grades are pretty hopeless anyway and uni's won't put too much importance on them - because I'm sure there are lots of cases of teachers predicting pupils higher purely because the UCAS stuff says they need the higher grade, and for a competitive course people below that won't be considered, so the teachers put the higher grade, but in reality the teachers aren't 100% sure that the pupil would make the higher grade
  • abby1234519
    abby1234519 Posts: 1,961 Forumite
    Ah I see. Well I was predicted AAAA at As, but when my granddad died I went a bit mental and ended up with ACCD, still at A2, they predicted AAB which I never will understand
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  • Zack1
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    Ah I see. Well I was predicted AAAA at As, but when my granddad died I went a bit mental and ended up with ACCD, still at A2, they predicted AAB which I never will understand
    That's a shame how it affected your grades, but I guess with AAAA they saw you as one of the exceptional students and must have thought that by retaking or whatever you could have got up to AAB. Maybe, maybe not, but that sums up why it's all so strange!

    There were similar cases at our school - people failing AS and still being given targets of C for A2, but people that got B/C at AS only being given targets of B or C, so I guess it does depend totally on the teacher - and they must take into account that no university application is going to look too good with a prediction of E (or in most cases D), so they try to stick to C or above and hope that even people who have failed will do better.
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  • MissPop
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    Zack1 wrote: »
    That's a shame how it affected your grades, but I guess with AAAA they saw you as one of the exceptional students and must have thought that by retaking or whatever you could have got up to AAB. Maybe, maybe not, but that sums up why it's all so strange!

    There were similar cases at our school - people failing AS and still being given targets of C for A2, but people that got B/C at AS only being given targets of B or C, so I guess it does depend totally on the teacher - and they must take into account that no university application is going to look too good with a prediction of E (or in most cases D), so they try to stick to C or above and hope that even people who have failed will do better.
    At my college, almost everyone's predicted grades for A2 were one grade higher than their actual result for AS. My AS grades (before resits in my 2nd year) were CEUU and my predicted grades were CDEE, IIRC. Although I imagine if people were consistently at a B grade throughout the year, for example, their predicted grade would be a B.

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  • Oldernotwiser
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    MissPop wrote: »
    At my college, almost everyone's predicted grades for A2 were one grade higher than their actual result for AS. My AS grades (before resits in my 2nd year) were CEUU and my predicted grades were CDEE, IIRC. Although I imagine if people were consistently at a B grade throughout the year, for example, their predicted grade would be a B.

    Why would the predicted grades be consistently higher than the results people had actually achieved?
  • Surfbabe
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    My DD didn;t received any offers until March this year - she applied to 5 - don;t panic about it. Has he applied to Uni's with Swim Schemes? My DS had been a County / Region Level swimmer and was offered a scholarship but turned it down as it was so restrictng on other things he could do.

    Predicted grades seem to be a bit of a lottery!
  • MissPop
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    Why would the predicted grades be consistently higher than the results people had actually achieved?
    I can only assume because it was hoped/expected that students would improve from one year to the next?

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  • Zack1
    Zack1 Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    MissPop wrote: »
    I can only assume because it was hoped/expected that students would improve from one year to the next?
    But I found the work at A2 was significantly harder, hence our teachers predicting that we'd probably get a grade lower unless were we very good at the subject or did particularly bad in AS

    Doesn't surprise me at all though, as the previous poster said, it seems like a bit of a lottery!!
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