Any Thing i can do about this????

maka_2

ok may be i dont need the full 10 days off but i am moving on the friday the 30th that is a must have day off also the following monday is a must day off aswell as the little one is in nursery so i can get on with alot.

maka_2

i have been speaking to my employer this afternoon and asked them if there was any flexibility there end i even said i would just have the 30th and 3rd july off thats now only 2 days holiday.

So do i now be as stubborn as they are being
i can go all guns blazin i tell them they have breached the Working Time Regulations & legislation ammended act of april 2003 section (2). by not supplying me with the correct amount of notice to say i was not entitled to my holiday.

Or do i hold fire on this as there is still a poss of me being signed off from work again.?

ruthyjo

With regard to your suggestion that you only take two days holiday what was the response? If they agreed to that I would accept that. We're onto the fifth house of our married life, have three kids and have accumulated a lot of stuff but I've never needed more than one day off work to move. Get as much help as you can on the day and I'm sure you'll be fine.

If you're not sure if your company has breached your employment terms have a look at your contract. Mine quite clearly sets out how holiday is granted and my employer cannot withdraw holiday once it has been granted following their procedures.

However I always try to be flexible e.g. whilst off with my children for may half term I went in a couple of evenings for a few hours as a project was at a crucial stage. I value my job and my employer's good opinion so I'm happy to do that.

maka_2

sorry forgot to say they would NOT be flexiable at all

maka_2

ruthyjo wrote:

With regard to your suggestion that you only take two days holiday what was the response? If they agreed to that I would accept that. We're onto the fifth house of our married life, have three kids and have accumulated a lot of stuff but I've never needed more than one day off work to move. Get as much help as you can on the day and I'm sure you'll be fine.

If you're not sure if your company has breached your employment terms have a look at your contract. Mine quite clearly sets out how holiday is granted and my employer cannot withdraw holiday once it has been granted following their procedures.

However I always try to be flexible e.g. whilst off with my children for may half term I went in a couple of evenings for a few hours as a project was at a crucial stage. I value my job and my employer's good opinion so I'm happy to do that.

The company have breached a working regulation law it states all employers must give notice to an employee the same amount as notice as the employee has asked for IE 10 days holiday 10 days notice they must give me to say i can not have it.

as per having a week off i dont feel is a great deal of time to move as there are things that need doing straight away. but i did offer to just have 2 days off and take further holiday when we have more staff in.

Another thing that has got my back up is they say it will leave them short staffed, there will be 7 out of 10 of us yet only last month there was only me and 2 other people in all week yet others were allowed there holiday still this is another reason why i think i have a right to fight this

maka_2

ruthyjo wrote:

With regard to your suggestion that you only take two days holiday what was the response? If they agreed to that I would accept that. We're onto the fifth house of our married life, have three kids and have accumulated a lot of stuff but I've never needed more than one day off work to move. Get as much help as you can on the day and I'm sure you'll be fine.

If you're not sure if your company has breached your employment terms have a look at your contract. Mine quite clearly sets out how holiday is granted and my employer cannot withdraw holiday once it has been granted following their procedures.

However I always try to be flexible e.g. whilst off with my children for may half term I went in a couple of evenings for a few hours as a project was at a crucial stage. I value my job and my employer's good opinion so I'm happy to do that.

The company have breached a working regulation law it states all employers must give notice to an employee the same amount as notice as the employee has asked for IE 10 days holiday 10 days notice they must give me to say i can not have it.

as per having a week off i dont feel is a great deal of time to move as there are things that need doing straight away. but i did offer to just have 2 days off and take further holiday when we have more staff in.

Another thing that has got my back up is they say it will leave them short staffed, there will be 7 out of 10 of us yet only last month there was only me and 2 other people in all week yet others were allowed there holiday still this is another reason why i think i have a right to fight this.

one last thing i dont value my job at all infact i cant stand it or the place.

Where would i stand if i left the company without giving them notice? i mean i have been offered another job starting as soon as i can but can my current employer with old my wage as i have not worked my notice?

Astaroth

Havent heard of this regulation... is it only for people that request the holiday or those that have it agreed and subsequently removed? What happens if you give them less notice than the amount of holiday you want to take? - cant see a regulation stating that if you ask for a 3 week holiday starting the next day that they cant refuse because it would be giving you less than 21 days notice.

As to how you want to play it, I guess it depends on your career aspirations within the company. Whilst you shouldnt be penalised for standing up for your rights not many companies are going to consider promotion for a "trouble maker" and will undoubtably find other candidates who are more suitable for the bigger pay rise/ promotion etc

ts_aly2000

If you're valued by the company then you can frankly do what you want. Call their bluff.

When I was a student and working for a well known supermarket I gave them 2 weeks notice that I would by having X and Y off to move. They said no, so I told them that if I didn't do the move then I'd be going back home for the summer so they'd have no one. All went quiet for the 2 weeks prior, then I had days X and Y off. A similar situation to you as I didn't get on with the deputy manager. He gave me a written warning, I told him he was an !!!!!!. Life went on.

I'd worked for them for about 8 years and was quite well known throughout the reigon, in that I couldn't walk into another store without bumping into someone I knew.

So what I mean here is, if you're known by everyone, if you do a good solid job, then just do what you want. That is of course assuming that you're never late, are totally predictable, are never sick etc. You're telling them what you're going to do, it's not up for discussion.

Far too many employers think that they own us and that we're so desperate for the work. Once you get up past about deputy management this view changes.

Tell them what you're going to do, and do it. But be prepared to get another job if needs be. Never hurt me doing what I said I was going to

maka_2

Astaroth wrote:

Havent heard of this regulation... is it only for people that request the holiday or those that have it agreed and subsequently removed? What happens if you give them less notice than the amount of holiday you want to take? - cant see a regulation stating that if you ask for a 3 week holiday starting the next day that they cant refuse because it would be giving you less than 21 days notice.

As to how you want to play it, I guess it depends on your career aspirations within the company. Whilst you shouldnt be penalised for standing up for your rights not many companies are going to consider promotion for a "trouble maker" and will undoubtably find other candidates who are more suitable for the bigger pay rise/ promotion etc

This regulation was changed in aug 2003 as per my conversation with acas today. it states that if the employee has given plenty of notice ( in my case will be 3 weeks come the day i need off) then the employer must give the same amount of notice to say that the holiday has not been given.

As per career aspirations with the company i have none i cant stand the place there is no scope at all for promotion. as for them finding someone else lets just say i would love to see it. it took them 9 months to take someone on the last time someone left. and they lasted 3 days my entie team cant stand it everyone is going or has been for interviews.

maka_2

ts_aly2000 wrote:

If you're valued by the company then you can frankly do what you want. Call their bluff.

When I was a student and working for a well known supermarket I gave them 2 weeks notice that I would by having X and Y off to move. They said no, so I told them that if I didn't do the move then I'd be going back home for the summer so they'd have no one. All went quiet for the 2 weeks prior, then I had days X and Y off. A similar situation to you as I didn't get on with the deputy manager. He gave me a written warning, I told him he was an !!!!!!. Life went on.

I'd worked for them for about 8 years and was quite well known throughout the reigon, in that I couldn't walk into another store without bumping into someone I knew.

So what I mean here is, if you're known by everyone, if you do a good solid job, then just do what you want. That is of course assuming that you're never late, are totally predictable, are never sick etc. You're telling them what you're going to do, it's not up for discussion.

Far too many employers think that they own us and that we're so desperate for the work. Once you get up past about deputy management this view changes.

Tell them what you're going to do, and do it. But be prepared to get another job if needs be. Never hurt me doing what I said I was going to

HI first thing not one person is valued in this company.
second i have been told by the MD that it will not be authed so do i now go to the company that own us and send an e-mail to the managing director