Mist coat again

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I know this topic has appeared a couple of times but I am trying to find out if the Dulux white matt I've got has any vinyl content and if its suitable as a mist coat? - reason I ask/am worrying is because the rich matt isn't suitable according to some threads. I can't see an 'ingredients' list on the tin and there's no info on the dulux website itself.

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  • phill99
    phill99 Posts: 9,093 Forumite
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    Most emulsions come in 2 versions: Vinyl matt and vinyl silk. There is also now a mid sheen (some manufacturers call it soft sheen). Both products contain vinyl. However, vinyl MATT is absolutely fine for a mist coat. The silk version is the one with the plasticisers in it and cannot be used for a mist coat. Remember to dilute to about 50/50 for a mist coat.
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  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
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    helend wrote: »
    I know this topic has appeared a couple of times but I am trying to find out if the Dulux white matt I've got has any vinyl content and if its suitable as a mist coat? - reason I ask/am worrying is because the rich matt isn't suitable according to some threads. I can't see an 'ingredients' list on the tin and there's no info on the dulux website itself.

    TIA
    What does it say on the container. If its Dulux it will say what its name is? Richmatt is unsuitable for a mist coat. Vinyl matt is unsuitable for new plaster but can be used when the plaster is FULLY dry. You could use Dulux Supermatt which is excellent for a mist coat but frankly any old contract matt will do.

    So what does it say on the tin?

    Cheers
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  • helend
    helend Posts: 128 Forumite
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    Hi, thanks for the replies

    Tin says: pure brilliant white matt, Dulux for walls and ceilings

    It's taken me 2 years to save enough to get the room plastered so really don't want to mess it up now by using the wrong paint for the mist coat!
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
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    helend wrote: »
    Hi, thanks for the replies

    Tin says: pure brilliant white matt, Dulux for walls and ceilings

    It's taken me 2 years to save enough to get the room plastered so really don't want to mess it up now by using the wrong paint for the mist coat!
    TBH I don't immediately recognise it from that description. Recommend you go out a get yourself some Dulux Trade Supermatt or a contract matt (Gliddens or Leyland) for your mistcoat. Don't use the sheds ownbranded stuff.

    Cheers
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  • sodamnfunky
    sodamnfunky Posts: 12,303 Forumite
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    Get some wickes trade paint and water that down, its cheaper than Dulux, and as its a mist coat, will work just fine.
  • helend
    helend Posts: 128 Forumite
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    I've done some more looking around on internet and I think it's just their normal bog standard matt emulsion, which I'd have assumed was ok but then I'd have thought the rich matt would be fine as well:confused:
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
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    helend wrote: »
    I've done some more looking around on internet and I think it's just their normal bog standard matt emulsion, which I'd have assumed was ok but then I'd have thought the rich matt would be fine as well:confused:
    No - trust me - Rich Matt doesn't stick to new plaster. Don't even think about it!

    Cheers
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  • helend
    helend Posts: 128 Forumite
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    keystone wrote: »
    No - trust me - Rich Matt doesn't stick to new plaster. Don't even think about it!

    Cheers

    I just meant that if I'd gone into shop looking for matt paint for a mist coat I would quite likely pick up rich matt thinking it would do the job.

    Earlier you said that vinyl matt is ok on FULLY dry plaster - the skim has looked dry for 4 days now so assuming I've got vinyl matt would it be ok to use? how long can a skim take to fully dry?
  • sodamnfunky
    sodamnfunky Posts: 12,303 Forumite
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    helend wrote: »
    I just meant that if I'd gone into shop looking for matt paint for a mist coat I would quite likely pick up rich matt thinking it would do the job.

    Earlier you said that vinyl matt is ok on FULLY dry plaster - the skim has looked dry for 4 days now so assuming I've got vinyl matt would it be ok to use? how long can a skim take to fully dry?

    I wouldnt, I would still get some cheap non vinyl paint and water that down. Trust me, I have seen clients of mine put a non mist coat on new plaster and then it peel off.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
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    helend wrote: »
    I just meant that if I'd gone into shop looking for matt paint for a mist coat I would quite likely pick up rich matt thinking it would do the job.
    Thats why I emphasise that it won't!
    Earlier you said that vinyl matt is ok on FULLY dry plaster - the skim has looked dry for 4 days now so assuming I've got vinyl matt would it be ok to use? how long can a skim take to fully dry?
    I say no - if you want a definitive judgement remotely. LOOKED dry for n days is NOT the same as HAS BEEN been dry for n days. Go get yourself some trade supermatt or contract matt as suggested.

    Cheers
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