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Rise in the unemployed continues to slow.

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  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Interesting that the number claiming JSA has dropped though!
    temporary staff being hired for the Christmas period?
  • abaxas
    abaxas Posts: 4,141 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    temporary staff being hired for the Christmas period?


    Employed as Petel Mandelslime's sex slaves?

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  • Generali wrote: »
    Presumably that's people that have been on the dole too long to continue claiming JSA.

    Contributions based JSA lasts 6 months.
    Income based JSA last indefinitly (I think) - although I suspect people move on to other benefits.
    US housing: it's not a bubble

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  • Graham_Devon
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    kennyboy66 wrote: »
    Contributions based JSA lasts 6 months.
    Income based JSA last indefinitly (I think) - although I suspect people move on to other benefits.

    I believe the figures are based on contribution based JSA, so Generali could be right.

    Could make it look like a fall as they move on to another benefit, which does not count for the purposes the report was based on.

    Certainly it's weird that in an environment where unemployment is rising, and in a month where a further 21,000 find themselves unemployed, the people claiming JSA goes down.
  • Generali wrote: »
    Presumably that's people that have been on the dole too long to continue claiming JSA.

    Why presume that?
    It could be as downshifter98 said in post three as people are being offered and taking jobs.
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  • Really2
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    edited 16 December 2009 at 4:22PM
    All reports say unemployment benefits claims, that must be benefits claimed through unemployment so to my mind must cover all benefits relating to unemployment, but excluding ill health (invalidity etc)
  • neas
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    less 'spinney' than Hamish re-post
  • I read somewhere that 600,000 public sector jobs were created this year, mainly in the NHS, so that might be part of the reason why the figures don't look as bad as all that.

    Obviously don't want to rejoice over high unemployment but I do wonder if the situation is worse than it looks.
  • Graham_Devon
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    Well on the radio tonight it stated just over a million people have taken part time instead of full time jobs. I.e. they have gone from full time > unemployed > part time.

    Also, 52% of the working population have either taken a pay cut or pay freeze.

    Those are huge numbers, and are the hidden numbers in all of this.

  • Also, 52% of the working population have either taken a pay cut or pay freeze.

    Those are huge numbers, and are the hidden numbers in all of this.

    But on that same note, that means 48% of people have taken a pay rise, and an additional 22% or so have had no change in pay. (as last time I saw figures, only 30% had taken a cut)

    70% of people, in a recession, have had a pay rise or no change. But as RPI was negative for quite a while, no change is actually a rise.

    Outsanding results for what the doomers were portraying as the worst recession since the Great Depression.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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