Rise in the unemployed continues to slow.

Graham_Devon

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

But on that same note, that means 48% of people have taken a pay rise, and an additional 22% or so have had no change in pay. (as last time I saw figures, only 30% had taken a cut)

70% of people, in a recession, have had a pay rise or no change. But as RPI was negative for quite a while, no change is actually a rise.

Outsanding results for what the doomers were portraying as the worst recession since the Great Depression.

Good work Hamish.

sjaypink

JSA numbers would go down as those only eligible for CB (contributions based) JSA reach the end of their 6 month claim.

Those only eligible for CB JSA, but not IB JSA, would include all those with a working partner.

However, this includes if the working partner is PT (over 16 hours pw), so it would be interesting to know the monthly % increases in Tax Credit payouts. Can't find out though seeing as they're paid based on total annual income ....from previous year :rolleyes:

ruggedtoast

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

But on that same note, that means 48% of people have taken a pay rise, and an additional 22% or so have had no change in pay. (as last time I saw figures, only 30% had taken a cut)

70% of people, in a recession, have had a pay rise or no change. But as RPI was negative for quite a while, no change is actually a rise.

Outsanding results for what the doomers were portraying as the worst recession since the Great Depression.

How about we forget about comparing everything to the doom mongers predictions and just stick to the facts.

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

How about we forget about comparing everything to the doom mongers predictions and just stick to the facts.

When we start getting pay stats in 2010 the picture will be a lot clearer.

Small businesses which employ around 50% of the private sector workforce, cannot afford to lay large numbers of employees. As they need all the skill sets to continue to operate their companies and organisations.

Germany has had a wose downturn than than the UK but unemployment has only risen .1%. So there's more to this story.

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Well on the radio tonight it stated just over a million people have taken part time instead of full time jobs. I.e. they have gone from full time > unemployed > part time.

What is the long term average for that because a lot of women go back to work part time after maternity leave.
I am not disputing this has happened just how much higher is it over the long time average

There were over 708,000 births in 08 obviously not all of those mothers would have been working before but also not all those who have gone down to part time work will be because of the recession either (ill health etc.)

Really could do with the average yearly stat of full time- part time migration if poss to see how far this has increased.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

What is the long term average for that because a lot of women go back to work part time after maternity leave.
I am not disputing this has happened just how much higher is it over the long time average

There were over 708,000 births in 08 obviously not all of those mothers would have been working before but also not all those who have gone down to part time work will be because of the recession either (ill health etc.)

Really could do with the average yearly stat of full time- part time migration if poss to see how far this has increased.

I haven't the foggiest. Straws and clutching comes to mind though.

What we do know is this is not normal.

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I haven't the foggiest. Straws and clutching comes to mind though.

What we do know is this is not normal.

Are you really as thick has you act? How the hell is it clutching at straws. ( I fully accept the numbers have gone up or did you fail to read, derrrr.)

It would be good to know how many people it effects over the norm otherwise we do not not if it is 1X, 2X, 3x etc over the average.

Not that you would ever understand such a concept of looking behind the headline.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

Are you really as thick has you act? How the hell is it clutching at straws. ( I fully accept the numbers have gone up or did you fail to read, derrrr.)

It would be good to know how many people it effects over the norm otherwise we do not not if it is 1X, 2X, 3x etc over the average.

Not that you would ever understand such a concept of looking behind the headline.

Go look for it then?

Why quote me and ask me?

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Go look for it then?

Why quote me and ask me?

Just that you posted the point I thought they may have said on the radio program you were listening too.

Never mind Graham, I should have known not too raise a sensible question!

roseland69

(a) Rise in unemployment slows. Positive spin.

(b) Unemployment continues to rise. Negative spin.

And that's all there is to it really. If you want to make good news out of bad you choose (a). If you want to say what you see you chose (b).