Pensions Planning: The NUMBER

GeordieGeorge

UpZord said:

I'd always live and retire in a town so i'd budget for a bike/public transport and minimal car use. Don't forget it has to be electric from 2030

That’s not correct, existing cars are still fine to use after that date.

Bravepants

GeordieGeorge said:

UpZord said:

I'd always live and retire in a town so i'd budget for a bike/public transport and minimal car use. Don't forget it has to be electric from 2030

That’s not correct, existing cars are still fine to use after that date.

Or budget to convert your classic to electric!

cfw1994

Bravepants said:

GeordieGeorge said:

UpZord said:

I'd always live and retire in a town so i'd budget for a bike/public transport and minimal car use. Don't forget it has to be electric from 2030

That’s not correct, existing cars are still fine to use after that date.

Or budget to convert your classic to electric!

We have a Nissan Figaro as a fun car....very tempting to do this, but your budget needs to be £10-20k.....which will likely stop us!!

MallyGirl

Bravepants said:

GeordieGeorge said:

UpZord said:

I'd always live and retire in a town so i'd budget for a bike/public transport and minimal car use. Don't forget it has to be electric from 2030

That’s not correct, existing cars are still fine to use after that date.

Or budget to convert your classic to electric!

Electric VW Transporter - without the extra weight that our conversion to a camper has added - has a range of 82 miles. Chocolate and Fireguard are words that spring to mind!

Bravepants

cfw1994 said:

Bravepants said:

GeordieGeorge said:

UpZord said:

I'd always live and retire in a town so i'd budget for a bike/public transport and minimal car use. Don't forget it has to be electric from 2030

That’s not correct, existing cars are still fine to use after that date.

Or budget to convert your classic to electric!

We have a Nissan Figaro as a fun car....very tempting to do this, but your budget needs to be £10-20k.....which will likely stop us!!

Oh yes, I've seen those around once or twice round where I am. Cute car. I have a Fiat Coupe (year 2000)...I must have a thing about round rear lights!

Bravepants

MallyGirl said:

Bravepants said:

GeordieGeorge said:

UpZord said:

I'd always live and retire in a town so i'd budget for a bike/public transport and minimal car use. Don't forget it has to be electric from 2030

That’s not correct, existing cars are still fine to use after that date.

Or budget to convert your classic to electric!

Electric VW Transporter - without the extra weight that our conversion to a camper has added - has a range of 82 miles. Chocolate and Fireguard are words that spring to mind!

That does sound pretty pointless, oh dear! Hopefully, batteries will improve, and charging infrastructure will progress. However, it might take a completely different technology like hydrogen..."Tesla Hindenberg" anyone?

Nebulous2

Bravepants said:

MallyGirl said:

Bravepants said:

GeordieGeorge said:

UpZord said:

I'd always live and retire in a town so i'd budget for a bike/public transport and minimal car use. Don't forget it has to be electric from 2030

That’s not correct, existing cars are still fine to use after that date.

Or budget to convert your classic to electric!

Electric VW Transporter - without the extra weight that our conversion to a camper has added - has a range of 82 miles. Chocolate and Fireguard are words that spring to mind!

That does sound pretty pointless, oh dear! Hopefully, batteries will improve, and charging infrastructure will progress. However, it might take a completely different technology like hydrogen..."Tesla Hindenberg" anyone?

The size of batteries needed for commercial vehicles is very difficult, with hydrogen fuel cells being the main competitor. It’s coming, for instance: 

https://www.commercialfleet.org/news/van-news/2021/01/13/renault-partners-with-plug-power-to-develop-hydrogen-powered-vans

I’m interested, because I like a van to carry bikes. I hate them being outside on the roof in poor weather and at stops for food / naps. Range is also a huge issue, as we tow a caravan. As is often the case, cost will be the deciding factor. 

LHW99

Toyota is into hydrogen power too

https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/new-mirai/

shinytop

Nebulous2 said:

Bravepants said:

MallyGirl said:

Bravepants said:

GeordieGeorge said:

UpZord said:

I'd always live and retire in a town so i'd budget for a bike/public transport and minimal car use. Don't forget it has to be electric from 2030

That’s not correct, existing cars are still fine to use after that date.

Or budget to convert your classic to electric!

Electric VW Transporter - without the extra weight that our conversion to a camper has added - has a range of 82 miles. Chocolate and Fireguard are words that spring to mind!

That does sound pretty pointless, oh dear! Hopefully, batteries will improve, and charging infrastructure will progress. However, it might take a completely different technology like hydrogen..."Tesla Hindenberg" anyone?

The size of batteries needed for commercial vehicles is very difficult, with hydrogen fuel cells being the main competitor. It’s coming, for instance: 

https://www.commercialfleet.org/news/van-news/2021/01/13/renault-partners-with-plug-power-to-develop-hydrogen-powered-vans

I’m interested, because I like a van to carry bikes. I hate them being outside on the roof in poor weather and at stops for food / naps. Range is also a huge issue, as we tow a caravan. As is often the case, cost will be the deciding factor. 

If something like a Nissan Leaf could tow I'd probably have one now or get one soon.  Not for a caravan, just a trailer.  As it is, the choice is limited to huge SuVs or minivans.  So I'll be sticking to petrol for the time being.  Shame really.

michaels

There are plug in hybrids (outlander, eniro) that can tow.  If your use pattern is mostly short local trips you could do all of these on electric and then use petrol for the longer tow trips.