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**Thanks to everyone on here for hints, tips and advice!**:D
lostinrates wrote: »MSEers are often quicker than google
"Freedom is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear" - G. Orwell0 -
carolinosourus wrote: »:rotfl:That is brilliant
Every little helps....0 -
Can't believe you're all still talking about this - the OP has clearly not responded to any comments even those which rather generously agree with him.
Reckon it is an alias.1 -
Guilty............0
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AsknAnswer wrote: »Regardless of the OP having the magnet, unless he was actually witnessed by the person who was "arresting" of comminting an indictable offence, no-one has the right to make an "any person arrest". In order to make an any person arrest, you have to have witnessed a crime which is indictable or know beyond doubt that the suspect is guilty.
That is just rubbish, in the first sentence you say you can't make an arest unless you have witnessed the person committing a crime, and in the second sentence you say you can arrest them if you witnessed them committing a crime, or know beyond doubt that they are guilty.
The truth is, you can arrest
"anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an indictable offence."
Or, if a crime has already been committed "anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it. "
As long as
"(a) the person making the arrest has reasonable grounds for believing that for any of the reasons mentioned in subsection (4) it is necessary to arrest the person in question;
and
(b) it appears to the person making the arrest that it is not reasonably practicable for a constable to make it instead."0 -
The security themselves rely on the fact that the 40% or so of people they wrongly accost are so releived to get out of such a situation they seldom follow up with complaints or litigation.
Who the hell would set out to break the law thinking "Hey, we know we'll get away with it 4 times out of 10"
I know that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, but even for a monkey that's not good odds.0 -
geordie_joe wrote: »Who the hell would set out to break the law thinking "Hey, we know we'll get away with it 4 times out of 10"
Drug addicts stealing to feed their habit cannot see beyond getting money for their next fix.0 -
I was one of the security guards.
The kick to the stomach was purely accidental - I was actually trying to kick him in the balls but his magnet affected my steel toe caps.
I only kicked him in the first place because he demanded his club card points for the game.
For those worrying about the children, they missed the whole incident as they were fully occupied wrecking the bus stop round the corner.
I'm surprised that he wants to sue me, I thought we'd parted on good terms, after all he did offer to pave my driveway.All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.0 -
ive concluded the OP has done a good job of getting some bites here - yet still at the same time it is a refresher on realising the rights of security guards. The advice is, if you are truly innocenct and get accosted, hope you get manhandled as much as possible, even better if you get detained in a room (unlawful imprisonment), look at the clock, smile and think of the big cheque awaiting after your successful lawsuit, the entertainment value when the police arrive and cant do anything but release you will be priceless too, even better if they also screw up - your compo has probably quadrupled itself0
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