accused of shoplifitng

ckerrd

geordie_joe wrote: »

The OP never said he had a "tag removing magnet", nor did anyone else. The OP said he had a magnet, the manager tried to imply that he intended to use it to open tags. This does not mean it was an actual tag removing magnet, made specifically for that purpose.

How true - it may just have been co-incidentally able to do that

never-in-doubt

spike7451 wrote: »

No payout!

Yes, they are on benefits so they can sue the taxpayer :rotfl::rotfl:

hothothot_3

I think you should go to a lawyer. Some possible things spring to mind, unlawful imprisonment by Tesco aswell as assault. Specialist legal help should be something to consider (you wont get that on these boards).

geordie_joe

never-in-doubt wrote: »

To answer this properly,

1. A security guard cannot lock you in a room nor can he detain you without your permission.

2. A security guard cannot use 'excessive force' (note the word excessive)

3. A security guard can DETER you but can only stand in the way of an unlocked door (like body block you)

4. If whilst being detained you need to the loo, the security guard has to let you go but can stand with the door open whilst you're there

5. A security guard can refuse to let you smoke whilst detaining you

Basically, the laws are quite simple in that anyone can make a citizens arrest but it is how the arrest and subsequent holding of the citizen that will come under scrutiny.

The old bill generally cover security anyway (i.e. take their side).....

A security guard can't detain you with your permission, but he can "refuse to allow you to smoke". Who gave security guards the power to decide who can smoke, and where and when?

What is the punishment for smoking when a security guard has refused you permission?


To quote you

2. A security guard cannot use 'excessive force' (note the word excessive)

3. A security guard can DETER you but can only stand in the way of an unlocked door (like body block you)

So, a security guard can use force, but not excessive force. 3 says he can only stop you getting away by standing in front of you, so where does the not-excessive force come into play? Stopping you lighting a fag?

never-in-doubt wrote: »

So in this instance, had the OP and his wife walked away the store staff and security had no right in manhandling them and as such, common assault charges can be brought against both tesco employees and the security.

It is strictly forbidden and illegal.

Which law says this is illegal?

willa

MrsE wrote: »

If you go out with tools (security tag magnets) then its not a moment if madness;)

You are assuming it's a tool for robbery and not for keeping watch screws all in one place.

spike7451

NickyDee wrote: »

I'm MrsKringle!!

Anyway, I've managed to lay my hands on a cheap video game I'm selling if anyone's interested?

Just don't tell my husband or kids, they wanted it so bad...

YOU'RE NICKED!!

Freddie_Snowbits

My partner is a little tied up at the moment, she is chained to the kitchen sink. Should I release her from the shackles?

whitelabel

Fridge3 wrote: »

Actually, I thought technically, you had to be outside the store for it to be theft.

nope just have walked past all option to pay, which can still be in the store
AS you are only held on suspicion, they can actually stop you in the store if you are concealing items or are removing security tags etc
its just an easier conviction if they have stepped outside the store

dacouch

Coming soon the musical featuring Mckringle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xedI5XxO59I

ben500

whitelabel wrote: »

nope just have walked past all option to pay, which can still be in the store
AS you are only held on suspicion, they can actually stop you in the store if you are concealing items or are removing security tags etc
its just an easier conviction if they have stepped outside the store

Don't even need to have passed all options to pay, removing a security device and secreting an item about your person or possessions could and most likely would be viewed as acts intended to permanently deprive.