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Christmas day off - refused

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  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    If you work in a hotel (or a hospital, or the police service or a care home, or any other organisation that provides a 24hr service) then you know that it is all hands on deck on Christmas Day. If you want the time off you take it as annual leave and you book it well in advance. You don't use up all your annual leave and then whine because your employer won't let you have the time off.

    (Or, maybe she's just not as keen to spend Christmas with you as you may think :D )
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  • I am working Christmas Eve night, Christmas Day night, and Boxing Night. I work in a care enviroment, and work as part of a team that work around a rota.
    I am sure that your girlfriend knew the implications of working in a hospitality enviroment before she took up her employment.
    How do nurses, police officers, care workers etc. cope?
    They reschedule their Christmas Day to suit their shifts, and that is exactly what i will be doing, and no doubt thousands of others.
    Perhaps your girlfriend can use 2010 to find a new job should she decide that working for Christmas is not for her.
  • tigtag02
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    Pete111 wrote: »
    ...Apart from the fact it is a public holiday.

    I rather expect her contract makes provision for these. At the very least she should get a day back in leiu

    She wont have the right to have a public holiday off work - the stat minimum for holidays is 28 days for full time work - this doesnt have to include public holidays and it seems she has taken all her annual leave!
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  • Lavendyr
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    Pete111 wrote: »
    ...Apart from the fact it is a public holiday.

    Irrelevant. Statute does not entitle you to public holidays in addition to paid holiday according to employment law, although an employer may include them as part of the minimum holiday entitlement. See below:

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10029788

    "Public and bank holidays You do not have a statutory right to paid leave on bank and public holidays. If your employer gives paid leave on a bank or public holiday, this can count towards your minimum holiday entitlement. There are eight permanent bank and public holidays in England and Wales (nine in Scotland and ten in Northern Ireland).
    If you work on a bank or public holiday, there is no automatic right to an enhanced pay rate. What you get paid depends on your contract of employment."
  • richard-
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    There is a new twist, the manager had a letter that said she would work christmas day so that is why she put her to work, it was written by an employee who is off for 6 months (so she new she wouldn't be there for xmas), and another deputy manager. Her dad spoke to the manager of the dept yesterday and we will know soon... but surely you can't just get away with pranks like that?
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  • ckerrd
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    richard- wrote: »
    There is a new twist, the manager had a letter that said she would work christmas day so that is why she put her to work, it was written by an employee who is off for 6 months (so she new she wouldn't be there for xmas), and another deputy manager. Her dad spoke to the manager of the dept yesterday and we will know soon... but surely you can't just get away with pranks like that?

    The manager had a letter that said who would work Christmas day?
    Who wrote the letter - 2 people?
    Whose Dad?
    And why is anyone's Dad speaking to an employer about this?
    What will you know soon?

    Sorry for the questions but I have no idea what your post means
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  • I think OP is saying that one of his GF's colleagues faked a letter saying that she (the GF) was willing to work Christmas Day.
  • mountainofdebt
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    edited 12 December 2009 at 1:45PM
    Richard

    I have to admit I'm confused - who said they would work Christmas Day ......your girlfriend or the employee who' s off said your gf would work ?

    tbh I don't think has done your girlfriend any favours in getting her dad to ring in for her - yes I would be offering support and advice my son in any work related issues but I wouldn't fight his battles for him and he's 17.

    Also unless your girl friend is ultra religious I think she, her parents and you are making too big a deal out of this issue. There are many occupations where people have to work on Christmas Day and just accept it as one of those things....just think of those who won't be seeing their loved ones for a long time until after Christmas because of where they are in the world.

    If your gf is so desparate to have Christmas Day off then surely the logical thing to have done would be not to have thrown dollies out of prams but see if a colleague (who can't see what all the fuss is about) would swop shifts - or would that have been too obvious?
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  • jdturk
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    richard- wrote: »
    There is a new twist, the manager had a letter that said she would work christmas day so that is why she put her to work, it was written by an employee who is off for 6 months (so she new she wouldn't be there for xmas), and another deputy manager. Her dad spoke to the manager of the dept yesterday and we will know soon... but surely you can't just get away with pranks like that?


    What has it got to do with her Dad? Gees if someones Dad came and talked to me I'd be more awkward if possible!!!
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