okies i have a nursery problem too

Anthillmob

my 2 kids attend a well known nursery chain 2 days a week. the eldest doesnt cost a lot each week as she ets her early years funding but the wee man currenlt costs just over £100 for 2 full days. this will drop in january due to him turning 2 on 30/12/09.

nearing the age of 2 he doesnt need to slepp/i try not to let him sleep during the day because otherwise he wont go to sleep at night.

a fair point i think most will agree. so i request nursery to only, should he fall asleep, let him sleep a maximum of UP TO 10 minutes.

yes he will grizzle and be grumpy if woken up during this time but he soon snaps out of it. and not just for me as he will do so for others.

i have now had 2 comments from nursery staff about how its 'mean/they feel mean'. excuse me, i say whats what. my child, they dont have to try and get him to sleep at night. the one that annoys me the most is the lady who works in the office and is not actually a child carer who suggested to me that i should let him sleep for 30 minutes.

i know my child.

i pay them a lot of money for 2 days care for him and they want to dictate how i should bring my own childup. and i know, for example tonight, that he didnt have the 10 mins as i was told because he would not go to sleep for ages.

so i am getting told bull.

surely if he had an allergy to say wheat and it was written in his file they would ensure they would not give him anything containing this yet i aSK A SIMPLE thing regards his sleep pattern and it seems it is being widely ignored.

and god forbid if they have a shortage of staff and new staff lookafter him and dont read the file at all and let him sleep in excess of an hour. surely they must read the individual childrens folders for likes, dislikes and requests from aprents as well as allergies?

and for a f weeks now staff who are meanyt to be there for 7.45am for an 8am start are not there for 8am and beyond. my OH dropped the kidsi n yesterday as i was at work at 5.40am. he took them in at 8.20am and there were no staff in te 'baby room'. this morning again no staff this time in either room apart from a lady who volounteers on odd days and the nursery manager. i had to leave this morning because i was blocking the whole car park.

and they have the cheek to moan if im a day late with a payment yet give me grounds to question their care ability.

hw do i approach this?

neilmcl

If you don't like the service they're providing go somewhere else, simple.

marvic31

Why not try and let him get through the day without a sleep. Im sure the nursery staff might prefer that anyway.

My boy can ge grumpy when I wake him early from an afternoon nap.

But because he is not in familiar surroundings, other kids shouting and playing,when he wakes and your not there to give him a cuddle, maybe he is a little more grumpy than usual.

Hintza

When my youngest was at nursery all the children had a sleep after lunch.

Hire a nanny and then get her to follow your instructions, otherwise fit in.

Do you think any school or in this case nursery is going to have a different set of rules for each and every child?

Get firm with bedtime at home. All children of that age need a sleep in the afternoon.

As for there being no staff there that is the one you should really be getting worked up at, staff need to be thee on time.

Lip_Stick

My son is 2 and a half and is not having a daytime nap most days now, but he's got out of it himself. Occasionally he may have one. If he's had an early start, not slept particularly well etc he may want a nap. Half an hour is about all he has. He's in bed by 7, and gets up at 7.

At 2 years, he was still having his naps. One after his lunch. I think your son will be needing a nap, especially since he's not even 2 yet.

Anthillmob

if he naps he dont sleep at night.

regards bedtime routine, waz going off a treat but then decided he could escape the cot so is now in big boys bed which has thrown him somewhat. this is over the past week and a half. thus wants to go to sleep down here on my lap again. and i give in, namely because my 2 share a room and dont want him waking the moo who goes to sleep nicely.

im sorry but i would like an evening to myself at some point, esp given i dont eat until the kids have gone to bed. hence no daytime sleep. obviously this doesnt meet with the standards of some parents on here but if i am paying in excess of £100 per week for his care alone i expect them to do as i request. i dont expect special treatment. they follow the requests of other parents, i.e. 'she cant play with sand as it has a reaction to her skin'. sounds quite mean but they follow it so why should me asking for the boy to be allowed minimal sleep be any different?

Lip_Stick

What time does your son go to bed and wake up? I'm lucky in that my son escaped his cot around that age, and on the second time I think he hurt himself so he didn't do it again... wasn't so lucky for him though I guess lol.

Morty_007

Anthillmob wrote: »

if he naps he dont sleep at night.

regards bedtime routine, waz going off a treat but then decided he could escape the cot so is now in big boys bed which has thrown him somewhat. this is over the past week and a half. thus wants to go to sleep down here on my lap again. and i give in, namely because my 2 share a room and dont want him waking the moo who goes to sleep nicely.

im sorry but i would like an evening to myself at some point, esp given i dont eat until the kids have gone to bed. hence no daytime sleep. obviously this doesnt meet with the standards of some parents on here but if i am paying in excess of £100 per week for his care alone i expect them to do as i request. i dont expect special treatment. they follow the requests of other parents, i.e. 'she cant play with sand as it has a reaction to her skin'. sounds quite mean but they follow it so why should me asking for the boy to be allowed minimal sleep be any different?

Hi What a pain! I know that I live for my boy's naps some days! He is just 2.5 and will sleep any amount of time during the day between nothing and 2 hrs some days. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why. What I HAVE noticed though is that he sleeps worse at night if he is OVER tired. He can sleep 2 hours, waking up at 5pm and then go back to bed at 7.30pm with no problems but other days he has a 10 minute sleep in the day and is still awake in his room at 9pm!!

Could you try getting him to go to bed in your room with a stairgate on the door so he doesn't wake his sibling and then move him to his bedroom once he is asleep? that would give you your evening back at any rate. I have a book called Baby Bliss (Dr Harvey Carp) which helped us to sleep train our boy. He hardly makes a peep when we leave him in his big boys bed now and we have jsut started to take the stairgate off last night (stairgate has saved our sanity but wasn't suggested by the book).

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the nursery to respect your wishes for his sleep but it might be worth considering the overtiredness thing.....

fozzeh

I think that the nursery should try their best to accomodate your wishes. Seems quite a bit of a pain the rear.

My LO is starting nursery on 04/01/10 and they're intentions seem to be amazing! Whatever we want, they will try. Even for a 'trail' half day, they'ece already asked how does she want her food, will she want a nap, what does she like doing around this time, what to do if she cries...

GL!

Anthillmob

Morty_007 wrote: »

Hi What a pain! I know that I live for my boy's naps some days! He is just 2.5 and will sleep any amount of time during the day between nothing and 2 hrs some days. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why. What I HAVE noticed though is that he sleeps worse at night if he is OVER tired. He can sleep 2 hours, waking up at 5pm and then go back to bed at 7.30pm with no problems but other days he has a 10 minute sleep in the day and is still awake in his room at 9pm!!

Could you try getting him to go to bed in your room with a stairgate on the door so he doesn't wake his sibling and then move him to his bedroom once he is asleep? that would give you your evening back at any rate. I have a book called Baby Bliss (Dr Harvey Carp) which helped us to sleep train our boy. He hardly makes a peep when we leave him in his big boys bed now and we have jsut started to take the stairgate off last night (stairgate has saved our sanity but wasn't suggested by the book).

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the nursery to respect your wishes for his sleep but it might be worth considering the overtiredness thing.....

cheers. however, i dont allow my kids to enter my bed at any time. that reslly sounds mean to some but i dont allow it. im quite strict like that but no so much in other ways.

Anthillmob

Lip_Stick wrote: »

What time does your son go to bed and wake up? I'm lucky in that my son escaped his cot around that age, and on the second time I think he hurt himself so he didn't do it again... wasn't so lucky for him though I guess lol.

any time between 6 and 7pm unless he as slept during the day. he then sleeps for 10-12 hours but might wake during the night for milky [as we/he calls it.

he escaped his cot the 1st time and got stuck mid escape and chops alerted me to 'nathans stuck' and there he was starddling the side of the cot, starkers with a very worried look on his face.

honestly if youd seen it you would have peed yourself laughing bless him.

the next day chops proudly informed me he had escaped again but she had encouraged him to 'jump' and she caught him.

cant have either so big boyts bed it is. and he aint fallen out yet.