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  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    these were quite interesting -

    this where probably where the likes of Devon get's confused on his average salary for an average house price is not affordable rants


    so people are actually earning enough to get around 3 times income to buy a house :rolleyes:


    so affordability is ok and deposits have increased

    I want a cheap 'ouse! I've got me sky tv, a new Nissan and an iPhone to pay for in the New Year.

    Speaking of Graham - he's been very quiet lately - did he get detention?
  • Really2
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    nembot wrote: »
    Declared income and actual income, aren't always the same thing Chuckster

    Can you still get self certs then?

    Do all people buy on one?
  • michaels
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    I think the bulls are having it both ways - the economy is weak so rates won't rise; the economy is strong so unemployment won't rise - surely you have to chose one or the other?

    With stronger growth elsewhere than the UK (I hope this is a fact that most can agree on) the price of tradeables is likely to increase and sterling may well weaken further as interest rates in those countries that are growing faster than the UK are normalised more quickly - the BoE is mandated to target the cpi so can not ignore imported inflation and is thus likely to be forced to tighten even if the domestic economy remains weak.

    Remember given that affordability has not been a problem and it seems availability of credit is not a real constraint either it would seem that it is price expectations that are the main driver of the property market and that these can change very quickly as was seen when boom turned to bust at the end of 2007. The next govt will be giving a very sombre message about belt tightening, possibly accompanied by increasing interest rates (as per my previous post), potentially enough to turn expectations again.
    I think....
  • Really2
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    Speaking of Graham - he's been very quiet lately - did he get detention?

    Apparently he is going to be a dad.:confused:

    At least he got one thing the right way round for once. :)

    (joke graham if you are there, we love you really, well OK we put up with you)
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    • The average declared income for first time buyers buying a property with a mortgage in the UK in 2008 was £41,000. This compares with £62,000 for former owner occupiers (Table 5.5);
    Without looking, I presume that's household income? Not individuals?
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    nembot wrote: »
    Declared income and actual income, aren't always the same thing Chuckster

    typical ghetto HPC sound bite... which lenders don't check income now or which lender does self-certs now? :rolleyes:
  • Really2
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    edited 4 December 2009 at 3:25PM
    michaels wrote: »
    I think the bulls are having it both ways - the economy is weak so rates won't rise; the economy is strong so unemployment won't rise - surely you have to chose one or the other?

    Unemployment will rise who said it won't?:confused: it may not hit the forecasts on here though.:eek:
    BOE Base will reflect/help the economy first and inflation second when we are trying to recover.(that is why you will see inflation go over target in the near future but no rate movement, they then expect it to fall again under target)

    BOE forecast a lot of slack in the world economy's meaning inflation could/should be low for years due to slow growth forecasts.
  • nembot
    nembot Posts: 1,234 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    typical ghetto HPC sound bite... which lenders don't check income now or which lender does self-certs now? :rolleyes:

    Do you think people cannot fake payslips?

    I never mentioned self certified mortagages, so you can stick you hpc comment up ya proverbial! :D
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    nembot wrote: »
    Do you think people cannot fake payslips?

    I never mentioned self certified mortagages, so you can stick you hpc comment up ya proverbial! :D

    no idea - but wouldn't you need bank statements to back up the pay slips and a few other bits of referencing information unless your a fast track client :rolleyes:

    HPC bot alert, HPC bot alert, HPC bot alert :D
  • abaxas
    abaxas Posts: 4,141 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    no idea - but wouldn't you need bank statements to back up the pay slips and a few other bits of referencing information unless your a fast track client :rolleyes:

    HPC bot alert, HPC bot alert, HPC bot alert :D

    WORP WORP Inside Track bot alert WORP WORP :rotfl:
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