gas & electric used during the night

espresso

PennyPinchingMiser wrote: »

Yeah, I guessed that. The point I'm getting to, is that it won't make any difference what time you use your washing machine or tumble dryer, as it always off of the normal 'black' meter, not the 'white' meter.

No, I have never seen a property wired like that. Any electricity used during the E7 hours is charged at the cheaper rate. The storage heaters may all be wired on a separate circuit. We are talking about E7 here not white meter systems.

Pete*G_4

espresso wrote: »

No, the seven hours could be between midnight and 8:00AM

so can you specify which 7 hours are cheap then? I really should look into this more, I just assumed I got the cheap rate between 12 & 8!

PennyPinchingMiser wrote: »

Yeah, I guessed that. The point I'm getting to, is that it won't make any difference what time you use your washing machine or tumble dryer, as it always off of the normal 'black' meter, not the 'white' meter.

If the 'white meter' circuit is used 'out of hours', you are charged at a premium rate. i.e if you override the immersion heater through the day.

Or that's how it worked for me

Thankfully, not having night storage heaters, we only have one meter and thus all our electricity usage is cheap during the Economy 7

PennyPinchingMiser

Pete*G wrote: »

so can you specify which 7 hours are cheap then? I really should look into this more, I just assumed I got the cheap rate between 12 & 8!




Thankfully, not having night storage heaters, we only have one meter and thus all our electricity usage is cheap during the Economy 7

Ah, you see, when I had E7, there were two seperate meters, thus two seperate circuits.
It looks like it's improved over the last 20 yrs

espresso

Pete*G wrote: »

so can you specify which 7 hours are cheap then? I really should look into this more, I just assumed I got the cheap rate between 12 & 8!

No you can't, as previously explained if all properties in a region switched at exactly the same time, it would cause an unnecessary surge.

Cardew

Pete*G wrote: »

between Midnight & 8am would be EIGHT hours, not seven :rotfl:

You should read more carefully!

I said:

You get 7 hours cheap electricity between the hours(normally) of Midnight and 8am

I might get it, from midnight to 7am, you might get it from 1am to 8am.

Both of us get 7 hours!!!

Ah, you see, when I had E7, there were two seperate meters, thus two seperate circuits.

You can still have 2 separate meters, or one meter with 2 displays.

The meters can be controlled by a mechanical clock, or on by a radio signal.

All electricity(sockets etc is on cheap rate in the 7 hours)

PennyPinchingMiser

Some region times, according to Eon

http://www.eonenergy.com/FAQ/Meters/Economy-7-Details.htm

Cardew

PennyPinchingMiser wrote: »

Some region times, according to Eon

http://www.eonenergy.com/FAQ/Meters/Economy-7-Details.htm

But that table only gives the 8 hour window in which you get 7 hours.

Many homes have mechanical switching and the times set on the clock determine the 7 hours - and many clocks can slow or fast by a considerable margin.

The_Pedant

Many homes have mechanical switching

I know one that has. The clock runs slow & gets further out of sync. The cheap rate is supposed to be between 12 & 7 (looking at the settings on the dial), but because it's so far behind, it now comes on between 10am & 5pm!

You don't say is you have a new digital meter, or the old mechanical ones. The mechanical ones, you could often hear switch over at the appropriate time, with a bit of a clunk.

Digital ones I thought used a radio signal to trigger the switchover.

espresso

The_Pedant wrote: »

I know one that has. The clock runs slow & gets further out of sync. The cheap rate is supposed to be between 12 & 7 (looking at the settings on the dial), but because it's so far behind, it now comes on between 10am & 5pm!

You been looking at my meter!

smjxm09

I use an average of 12.5kW in a 24 hour period. From midnight to 7am it usually comes to around 2.5kW. I worked it out that if I was on economy 7 on my present tariff I would be paying an extra £127 a year.