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  • candygirl
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    Sublime wrote: »
    They seem sweet little dogs, but one of those used to repeatedly go for my staffy, who is so good natured, and used to look for me to guidance.
    Awww bless:A
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  • Sublime_2
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    We are so lucky to have him. Not all dogs are so tolerant; again we're very fortunate.
  • UKTigerlily
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    Ruby_Moon wrote: »
    If there were no breeders at all the breed will die out in 20 years, or is that what you want? You will not be able to get another Staffie nor will anyone else. Is that a selfish attitude? "I had a Staffie but now the breed has gone tough luck to everyone else"
    Who decides that the breed should continue and who does it? Someone who you pick or someone who the government pick?
    Breeders can only breed if people buy. If people don't buy then they don't breed.
    Try as you might, you will always have people wanting a puppy, not a full grown dog...and if that isn't a Staffie, it will be something else.

    People can get plenty of Staffy pups from Rescue. Who said anything about letting them die out?! RIGHT NOW, nobody needs to be breeding them! Let the thousands in rescue be homed, I believe IMO that anyone who truely loves this breed & isn't wanting one to show should get a rescue, there're all ages in rescue, why should they die?! It's wrong to bring more into the world meaning others die.
  • UKTigerlily
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    Ruby_Moon wrote: »
    How many times do you have to ask the same question when I have seen so many answers given?
    The main reason (and one that should be good enough for you) is that people want a pup that they have chosen from birth who they know has not picked up or been taught any bad habits, especially when they have children.
    Even if anyone is lucky enough to even find a new born pup in rescue, the rescue owners are so strict with some of their rules that a pup very rarely gets given to families with children.
    ETA. Your examples are not puppies and they are all Staffies. 99 people out of 100 do not want a Staffie no matter how good their reputation is. It isn't because they are bad or mean or are likely to bite the kids, we know that they are nice, gentle dogs but its because of how they look. They have a harsh look as do most bull terriers and many people do not like the strong jaw look of a staffie. They don't give the feeling of being a 'cuddly' dog.
    Sorry if that doesn't sit well with you but I don't see why people should take on a Staffie just because they are lots of them to be had.

    Nobody says they have to, this thread is about Staffs tho not other breeds. Who says anyone must have a Staffy? They won't be right for many people!
  • UKTigerlily
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    bramble1 wrote: »
    My puppy was brought to be a working dog, we couldn't have gotten him from a rescue, we had to get him from a breeder.

    Mine's a working Dog too, however this thread is about Staffs so I meant Staffs being bred when thousands must die x
  • bramble1
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    I have a rescue Staffy I got last year & am so against breeders, whether 'reputable' or not, how can it be right to breed these poor Dogs when thousands more must die as homes aren't available? QUOTE]
    Mine's a working Dog too, however this thread is about Staffs so I meant Staffs being bred when thousands must die x

    I apologise - I thought you're statement in the other post was about breeders in general, not just Staffs.
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  • hethmar
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    edited 4 December 2009 at 5:27PM
    mrcol1000 wrote: »
    Thats not really an excuse. What if a child who didn't know to ask permisson before stroking a dog had tried to stroke the dog? As its a Westie you seem to have taken this oh its my fault thing. No dog should be out in public unless it can be approached by strangers without going for attack. If it can't it should have a muzzle no matter how cute and adoreable the dog is.


    My post was in response to an earlier one about westies being snappy mrcol (Paradigm) - I was just very surprised - had never thought of them being like that til this one had my hand. I cant imagine a westie in a muzzle ...
  • UKTigerlily
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    No sorry will edit it later x
  • gettingready
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    mrcol1000 wrote: »
    Thats not really an excuse. What if a child who didn't know to ask permisson before stroking a dog had tried to stroke the dog? As its a Westie you seem to have taken this oh its my fault thing. No dog should be out in public unless it can be approached by strangers without going for attack. If it can't it should have a muzzle no matter how cute and adoreable the dog is.


    Ermmmm sorry but I tottaly disagree with the above.

    1) If a child did not know to ask permission before approaching a strange dog - I would have a go at this child's parents. It is their job to educate their own kid.

    2) No strangers should approach a dog without asking the owner first if this is ok.

    I do not liek people coming up to my dog and trying to stroke her without asking me - I do nto liek to stress my dog.

    My dog is as good as gold with people, she has no agression issues but this is not the point.

    Several times I had her on a lead and see kids watching her and parents telling their kids to "go and touch the dog, dog is on a lead so it is ook" without asking me if this is ok.

    Dogs are living creatures and should be respected as such.

    I will not have random people approaching my dog and expecting the dog to be ok about just anyone touching her.

    Yup, I know - some people will try t kill me now for my statements....:rolleyes:
  • hethmar
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    edited 4 December 2009 at 5:38PM
    Nope, I agree with you entirely. My dogs are good as gold too, but I dread little kids rushing up to bang them (erm stroke them) on the heads. It must terrify dogs. As I say, it was my fault, the dog was beaming up at me, tail wagging as he waited at a bus stop with an owner and I thought how cute - didnt think I may terrify the poor little sod by bending over him. Its such a long time since I was bitten didnt occur to me it may happen with this tiny little thing wrapped up in his designer fur coat :) Warning to us all. Or as they say, "Deed not Breed"
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