Welfare state costs £473 BILLION!!!!

The_White_Horse

thriftybabe wrote: »

Are you kidding? Seriously this p****s me right off! I have not been a beauty salon since before my kids were born. Anything we have we spend on the kids. They come first and we make do!

I am deadly serious. They have a beauty salon. Sickening!!!

The_White_Horse

here you are, here is a picture of an inmate having her hair done at "brenda's salon" in holloway prison.
http://www.dfgdocs.com/Directory/Titles/1333.aspx

absolutely heart breakingly disgusting in every way possible.

Pobby

I suppose it depends on what prison is supposed to do. Punish or rehabilitate? It also depends on the type of offender. If a pensioner is imprisoned for not paying council tax should that person be treated the same way as a serial killer?

edgex

ceebeeby wrote: »

Why do we have to look after him

I'd have thought the kids were the innocent ones!

It would be cheaper to bloomin' castrate the man!

It would actually be cheaper to shoot him, the 5 children & 4 mothers, than to have him castrated


bullets are cheap, doctors are expensive!

Johnny_Doe

I suspect a lot of this is down to Benefit Fraud (Tighter controls need to be put in place to prevent this)

Just curious (and I probably should post in the benefits section) but how much in child benefits would one actually be entitled to per week?

I know for a single person with no kids (on reading Max Headrooms posts) that this is not enough to live on.. Safety net for some and not for others?

So in summary, there should be a limit on the amount of child benefit received (2 kids max?) to prevent increased breeding of said "chav" populous and a clampdown on benefit fraud.. (and maybe also RBS investment banker bonuses perhaps? lol)

edgex

Johnny_Doe wrote: »

I suspect a lot of this is down to Benefit Fraud (Tighter controls need to be put in place to prevent this)

Just curious (and I probably should post in the benefits section) but how much in child benefits would one actually be entitled to per week?

I know for a single person with no kids (on reading Max Headrooms posts) that this is not enough to live on.. Safety net for some and not for others?

So in summary, there should be a limit on the amount of child benefit received (2 kids max?) to prevent increased breeding of said "chav" populous and a clampdown on benefit fraud.. (and maybe also RBS investment banker bonuses perhaps? lol)

theres a remarkably easy way to clamp down on fraud within the benefits system:

stop paying out cash!


income support, jsa etc, instead of giving people money, pay the essential bills for them, up to a maximum amount
eg. have a fixed monthly amount for utilities, thats paid directly to the utility provider

for child benefits, pay for school meals & school uniforms, stationery, trips etc


whos going to try & defraud a system that they cant get cash from?
it also then means that we (the state) know that the money is actually being spent on what its supposed to be spent on

The_White_Horse

edgex wrote: »

theres a remarkably easy way to clamp down on fraud within the benefits system:

stop paying out cash!


income support, jsa etc, instead of giving people money, pay the essential bills for them, up to a maximum amount
eg. have a fixed monthly amount for utilities, thats paid directly to the utility provider

for child benefits, pay for school meals & school uniforms, stationery, trips etc


whos going to try & defraud a system that they cant get cash from?
it also then means that we (the state) know that the money is actually being spent on what its supposed to be spent on

good idea.

they should also bring in the food stamps system.

alternatively, they should shoot all these charver scum because it all gets out of hand. most are self serving hateful unproductive (unfortunately not unreproductive) filth. they are scum and death is too good for them.

Davesnave

I hate to find myself finding some sympathy for a donaldtramp post, but having noticed a lot of this stuff over the years doing the 'useless' public sector job I did, I can only say that's why I'm now living in the depths of the countryside rather than in a city. The figures are, ultimately, unsustainable, so when the brown stuff hits the rotating object, things will not be pleasant for those living alongside those who will lose out.

I'm offended, as usual, by Old Slaphead, who seeks to equate dubious benefit pay outs with public sector pensions, saying those who expect to receive them think they are 'fully justified.' Hmm, what would Basil Fawlty say about that, I wonder? Perhaps something like:

"Of course they do, you daft old bint!!!'

But I'm far too polite to say anything like that. I'd rather point out that 30+ years of public service is normally a little different from 30+ years on one's @rse in front of the TV.

Yes, there's a problem with funding there, we agreed that several weeks ago,but it's disingenuous to conflate the two issues in that way.

edgex

The_White_Horse wrote: »

good idea.

they should also bring in the food stamps system.

alternatively, they should shoot all these charver scum because it all gets out of hand. most are self serving hateful unproductive (unfortunately not unreproductive) filth. they are scum and death is too good for them.

we can do better than food stamps nowadays
they could be issued with a payment card, like a top-up debit card

SingleSue

Re voucher system

What about the trips to the hospital, the washing machine breaking down, birthdays, Christmas (even people on benefits have these).

I think they have gone into this on the DT board and have discovered it would actually cost far more to administer and create more stigma than the current system.